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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: Drugs in sports
Whats everyones view on this. It seems normal in so many sports for drugs to be used. The people at the top have known this and are reluctant to really crack down, more so if its a big name that gets caught.
The American sprinter, Gatlin, had promised to help eradicate drugs in exchange for a reduced sentance.
"Gatlin first failed a drugs test in 2001 when amphetamines were found in his samples at the USA Junior Championships.
But it was accepted that medicine he had been taking for 10 years to control attention-deficit disorder was the reason for the failed test."
This was a quote on the BBC web about Gatlins previous case. So now you know. Attention Deficit Disorder means you forget the fact you should not take drugs.
Was it not that he had a cream which had testosterone in it rubbed into him!? Atleast I think thats what I may have read! I think that if people are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt of taking drugs to improve performance they should be banned for life, that includes Dwain Chambers... to say your sorry and for it to be fine is a joke... am I right in thinking Lasix is only allowed in some states in the US? I find this case interesting... I wonder why they allow it in the states? Do they think it helps the horses not to get injured? I've forgotten what it does exactly... i'll read up in a minute... but could it not be used over here? And why is it not? What do you think to this Alan? _________________ "In the race for excellence, there is no finish line"
I've not known a drugs cheat hold his/her hands up and say"guilty as charged your Honour"-they all have some pathetic excuse.
If it's proved beyond all reasonable doubt they've taken performance enhancing as opposed to recreational drugs they should be banned for life. _________________ Always remember you're unique,just like everyone else.
Hi Matt..... Lasix is used to stop horses bleeding, which in my mind allows them to be raced more often. I think if a hrse coughs up blood or bleeds from the nose then its a sign of injury. So stopping bleeding to allow horses to race is, in my view, totally wrong. I do know its not allowed in all states, and also if you use the search engine here, there have been mentions of this before. Bute is also used in America, but i dont know what it does. Cre8flow would know which States ban drug use.
As far as humans using drugs, its wrong and they should be banned for life unless there is a reasonable doubt about their guilt. To me the teststerone being in the massage cream is viable, but the fact the guy has used medicenes as an an excuse before makes me go hmmmm.
the drug laws in the united states are changing constantly....they now have a specific test for EPO so that is why these stories are coming out...lasix is legal in every state but bute is not-some states still ban bute-another argument against lasix is that it masks other drugs.....trainers in the states are legally allowed to use steroids on their horses...its a disgrace...when american trainers ship to a foreign country they are often asked by the inviting race officials prior to tesing if the horses are using drugs and specifically steroids...there is a new drug called HGL or something-it may not have the negative effects that steroids have and it is being used frequently by athletes...if you go to a doctor they will prescribe it to you-i think it reduces the aging process as well but i am not exactly sure-i have to believe trainers are using this drug on horses as well but really i am out of my element here
Lasix - legal in most if not all US states. It is used to suppress bleeding from the lungs/respiratory system. One of the "reasons" it is allowed is that constantly being worked/raced on dirt tracks compromises the respiratory system, because of the dust inhaled. Illegal in UK, and horses have to be able to test "clear" before running here - which is one of the reasons why very few US horses come over for our big races!
Bute - painkiller/anti-inflammatory. It is used throughout the horse world (we use it ourselves on an elderly pony who has arthritis - when the arthritis flares up, bute gives relief (full name phenylbutazone)). However, it is illegal for UK racehorses (and for eventers and I think some other disciplines, eg endurance, show-jumping) because in these circumstances it masks muscle, tendon or ligament injuries and enables the horse to run injured but "pain free". Legal in some US states and not in others.
EPOs - as stated, enhances red cells. Gives endurance. Much used by distance athletes and cyclists. Illegal in UK and US.
Milkshakes - I have heard of these being used (not real milkshakes) in US racing, but don't know what they are, what they are for or whether they are illegal or not.
Steroids - know to be common in the States. Illegal here and in US. Obvious performance enhancer (cf sprint athletes, nandrolone, testosterone and others. US "winner" of the last Tour de France tested positive for testosterone (elevated levels) and was stripped of the win.)
In my opinion, US racing is seriously compromised by the routine use of drugs, whether illegal or not. In UK so far we seem to be on top of the problem. But there is no room for complacency. I could not condone the use of any drug in racing - perfectly OK to use bute, for example, on an injured horse to relieve pain and reduce inflammation, but the system must be clear of it before it next races. Otherwise, there is a high risk of more permanent injury. _________________ UNEXPECTED WINNER 2009 FLAT 10 TO FOLLOW COMPETITION!
steroids in the united states are not illegal as far as using them on race horses is concerned
I am appalled! If the use of steroids is not illegal (or banned under the US equivalent of the Rules of Racing) then it can surely be assumed that most racehorses will be given steroids (human analogy - can you win without them?) This seriously compromises the health and welfare of (presumably) a very large number, if not all, of racehorses in the US.
So where does that put US racing, then? The horse wins whose trainer is cleverest at administering steroids? No wonder very few US horses come over to UK to contest the big races! And what the routine administration of steroids must be doing to the breeding stock God knows. _________________ UNEXPECTED WINNER 2009 FLAT 10 TO FOLLOW COMPETITION!
I wonder just how much covering up from Governing bodies goes on in sport. I know for a fact that Professional Football clubs have made 'discoveries' before The Doping Agency has got there.
The shameful thing is, taking drugs to enhance perfomance gives kids the impression it is okay. I would hate to see a list of previous cover ups as some big reputations would surely be shreded.
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