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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Royal Ascot Bets Reply with quote

What have you backed so far?

My bets at the moment;

The Coventry - No Hubris 2.5pts E/W @ 10/1 (NRNB - WH)
The Wokingham - Something 2.5pts WIN @ 14/1 (NRNB - WH)
St James Palace - Delegator 2.5pts E/W @ 9/2 (NRNB - Stan James)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air Chief Marshal yesterday on Betfair, 11/1, e/w bet.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R Moore top jockey 10/11
R Hills top jockey 15/1 small stake (quality over quantity in rides)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Queen Ann looks a straighforward race - In my opinion: -

Paco Boy- Doesn't stay a Group 1 mile with a constant strong pace;
Main Aim- Group 3 horse and has to improve to place, should be 12/1 but Stoute factor ensures that he is horribly underpriced. Place lay;
Cesare - Old boy who will need the run. Group 2 horse - Not good enough;
Mac Love - Not a Group 1 horse but place chance;
Arabian Gleam - Group 2 horse, not good enough to win;
Dream Eater - Handicapper;
Gladiatorus - Exceptional performances on the clock in Dubai, form with Previs is there for all to see. He is an out and out miler, Ahmed is the man to get the fractions right again, Frankie rode him once and messed it up so why change a winning formula? There have been rumours flying around why his form improved so much from 2 - 4 years old, which may or may not have merit, but his form was good before his injury and the Godolphin operation almost specialise in improving horses with aged. At 5/2 I'm willing to give the horse and connections the benefit of any doubt. He won't need the run and actually needs a break in between races as he runs better fresh. I personally think he will get an easy lead without any other obvious front runners and win by 8 lengths tomorrow.
Alexandros - Leading EW chance. Solid form in the book and was arguably unlucky not to win the Lockinge. He isn't in the same class as Gladiatorus but I think he will place. Should Gladiatorus underperform for some reason then Alexandros is the most likely to win in my view.
Aqlaam - I think he will improve beyond recongition tomorrow as he was too buzzy in the Lockinge when he was too keen and pulled his chance away within the first quarter of the race. He has course form and will appreciate the likely strong, constant pace set by Gladiatorus so he should settle and give himself every chance of competing. Leading place chance.

I'm tempted to have a good go at this race and back: -

Gladiatorus Win @ 5/2
Aqlaam EW @ 10/1
Alexandros EW @ 8/1
 

Elsewhere I think Mastercraftsman will gag up in the St James Palace Stakes. I think the pace will be controlled by Ballydoyle and half the field won't stay the trip with Johnny pulling further and further clear in the last furlong. Short price but justifiably so in my opinion.

I think Scenic Blast will live up to his name and take the King Stand Stakes and Canford Cliffs looks Place Lay material. Another hyped up beast from the Hannon yard running again several unexposed horses who won last time out and have scope to improve over a stone. 7/4 No thank you.

Regards and good luck to all.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gladiatorus is definitely tempting @ 5/2 as he would probably be no bigger than Evens if he had the name 'A P O'Brien' next to his name
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.5 pt win bets on each of these

PACO BOY
EQUIANO
INTENSE FOCUS
RED JAZZ
KAYF ARAMIS

I'll be disappointed if I don't win my money back.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owl of Minerva wrote:
Gladiatorus is definitely tempting @ 5/2 as he would probably be no bigger than Evens if he had the name 'A P O'Brien' next to his name


This is true, but he doesn't, he has the name S.B Suroor next to his name, which in this field, makes him a 6-7/1 chance, woefully under-priced as he's likely been Godolphined.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorg_George wrote:
Owl of Minerva wrote:
Gladiatorus is definitely tempting @ 5/2 as he would probably be no bigger than Evens if he had the name 'A P O'Brien' next to his name


This is true, but he doesn't, he has the name S.B Suroor next to his name, which in this field, makes him a 6-7/1 chance, woefully under-priced as he's likely been Godolphined.


I'm sorry, but even if I was the trainer Gladiatorus wouldnt be anywhere near 7/1, he is the top rated horse in the World remember!

I think Swagger has got this race absolutely spot on, and I echo his thoughts exactly.

On my Speed Figures, the 'Superfreak' as Mr Willoughby likes to call him is about 5 lengths clear of the rest, and as the only pace in the race will just keep rolling and rolling.

I suggest you watch the Duty Free again, and keep your eyes on Vodka, who in her own right is some beast. Watch her crumble as she tries to mix it up top with Gladiatorus. Look at the horses who were crushed in behind - Archipenko, Presvis, Kip Deville, Paco Boy - the list goes on. Nothing else in the race can boast such credentials.

I'm willing to (and have) plough into him at 5/2 (28.5%!!!!), as I see him more of a 11/8 (42%) shot at best.

I'm not a lover of Godolphin, but I do think they get a bit of unreasonable stick.

Good Luck all, I'll hold up my hands for the shots if I'm totally wrong on this one.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As it is Royal Ascot I will be betting in every race;

2.30 Paco Boy (one more chance to show he doeas stay 1m)
3.05 Fleeting Spirt
3.45 Evasive EW
4.20 Fremont
4.55 Liberate and Royals Rationale
5.30 Strike the Tiger (really nice to see John Velasquez riding in this country)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Royal Ascot Bets Reply with quote

Owl of Minerva wrote:

The Wokingham - Something 2.5pts WIN @ 14/1 (NRNB - WH)


Checked my online a/c and WH put this through as a losing bet and no refund

Just had to spend 5 minutes on the phone explaining to some donkey in a foreign call centre the way in which NRNB works

"That is antepost so is a losing bet"
"No it was definitely NRNB"
"THe horse is a non runner so you lose bet"
"It was definitely NRNB. And even if it wasn't the horse was ballotted out so I get my money back either way"
"Let me check with supervisor"

Got there eventually!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Royal Ascot Bets Reply with quote

Owl of Minerva wrote:
Owl of Minerva wrote:

The Wokingham - Something 2.5pts WIN @ 14/1 (NRNB - WH)


Checked my online a/c and WH put this through as a losing bet and no refund

Just had to spend 5 minutes on the phone explaining to some donkey in a foreign call centre the way in which NRNB works

"That is antepost so is a losing bet"
"No it was definitely NRNB"
"THe horse is a non runner so you lose bet"
"It was definitely NRNB. And even if it wasn't the horse was ballotted out so I get my money back either way"
"Let me check with supervisor"

Got there eventually!


Don't you just love bookies call centres?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Aegeon is better than Jealous Again mnot matter how bad he is drawn ,which he is ,he will win ,so big single on him.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

done bikini babe and dr freemantle in a double in the first 2 races tomorrow


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