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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: St Leger Reply with quote

It’s a while since I contributed to the Greyhound section, so here’s my take on the on-going St Leger at Wimbledon. I really like these multi-round events, as once the 1st round is out of the way, you have some real relative track form to analyse, unlike the one-off Opens where dogs from all over the country meet with little or no collateral form.

Over the last few competitions I’ve been analysing how predictive the 1st rnd results were in terms of the final outcome.

This may look like after-timing, but the analysis I did after the 1st round of the Northern puppy Derby produced the following.
Code:
Dog           Start  Actual  Adj1   Adj2   Calc    Rank
Crown River   5.03   27.68   0.00   -70    26.98   01
Droopys Kez   4.99   27.71   0.00   -70    27.01   02
Raving Bl'k   5.13   28.34   0.30   -100   27.04   03
Mill Mikey    5.12   28.20   0.15   -90    27.15   04
Drumcrow ct   4.93   28.06   0.00   -90    27.16   05
Droopys Ras   5.21   28.36   0.15   -100   27.21   06
Droopys Qui   5.03   27.95   0.00   -70    27.25   07
Romeo D'Pie   5.17   28.63   0.45   -90    27.28   08
County Bust   5.17   28.15   0.15   -70    27.30   09
Officer Don   5.02   28.32   0.00   -100   27.32   10
unshakable    5.12   28.40   0.15   -90    27.35   11
Eden Homer    5.19   28.35   0.00   -90    27.45   12
Sophies Fan   5.13   28.27   0.00   -80    27.47   13
Conf'Kermit   5.01   28.32   0.15   -70    27.47   14
Bracken Ben   5.09   28.52   0.30   -70    27.52   15
Droopys Eug   5.39   28.42   0.00   -80    27.62   16
trist'm sha   5.13   28.47   0.00   -80    27.67   17
undoubtable   5.28   28.91   0.30   -90    27.71   18



the calculated time takes into account the going correction and a trouble free run.

Obviously the winner was Droopys Kez with Raving Black and Crown Rover filling the places. Droopys Kez was available to back at 11/2, Crown Rover 5/1 and Raving Black 16/1 at the time. Droopys Quinta was the 5/2 fav.


Retrospectively, looking back at last years St Leger, after the 1st round. The 24 remaining dogs were ranked as follows;

Code:
Spiridon Louis   15.91   41.18   0.00   0.10   41.28   01   6/4
Lenson Joker     15.59   41.38   0.00   0.00   41.38   02   4/1
Bubbly Venus     15.73   41.40   0.00   0.00   41.40   03   5/1
Butterb'ge Ali   15.59   41.41   0.00   0.00   41.41   04   6/1
Directors Chai   15.51   41.31   0.00   0.10   41.41   05   4/1
Ballym Weeshie   15.59   41.43   0.00   0.00   41.43   06   3/1
Iceman Brutus    15.76   41.45   0.00   0.00   41.45   07   6/4
Vatican Jinkie   15.41   41.36   0.00   0.10   41.46   08   6/4
Droopys Riquel   15.54   41.47   0.00   0.00   41.47   09   14/1
Foulden Spec'l   15.90   41.47   0.00   0.00   41.47   10   4/1
Westmead Aoifa   15.84   41.48   0.00   0.00   41.48   11   5/4
Jazz Hurricane   15.48   41.49   0.00   0.00   41.49   12   5/2
Fitzroy Sydney   15.56   41.26   0.00   0.30   41.56   13   2/1
Big Brett Coal   15.76   41.66   0.00   0.00   41.66   14   3/1
Crafty Disco     16.33   41.70   0.00   0.00   41.70   15   10/1
Masterpiece      15.66   41.71   0.00   0.00   41.71   16   8/1
Charlies Dream   15.69   41.51   0.00   0.30   41.81   17   14/1
Discreet Cat     15.56   41.93   0.00   0.00   41.93   18   3/1
Greenwell Flsh   15.49   41.74   0.00   0.20   41.94   19   6/1
Coolagorna Fur   16.06   41.96   0.00   0.00   41.96   20   50/1
Pigalle Lass     16.02   41.79   0.00   0.30   42.09   21   50/1
Shelborne Rich   18.28   42.04   0.15   0.20   42.09   22   2/1
Danas Black      16.01   41.91   0.00   0.20   42.11   23   5/1
Geordie Bill     15.99   42.11   0.00   0.00   42.11   24   20/1


The price shown is the SP for the ¼ final race, to give some indication of what their overall winning SP might have been.

The outright winner of last year’s St Leger was Spiridon Louis, who beat Lenson Joker into 2nd. Westmead Aoifa 3rd, Directors Chair 4th, Bubbly Venus 5th and Iceman Brutas 6th .

Looking at this years St Leger, and following Saturday night’s 1st round, the remaining 24 dogs are ranked as follows;

Code:
Bubbly Totti        15.66   40.93   0.00   0.00   40.93   01   3
Iceman Brutus       15.55   41.12   0.15   0.15   41.12   02   25
Division Belle      15.44   41.06   0.00   0.15   41.21   03   33
Shelbourne Tiger    15.55   41.23   0.00   0.00   41.23   04   25
Lenson Joker        15.47   41.10   0.00   0.15   41.25   05   2
Carbarns Tom        15.70   41.18   0.00   0.10   41.28   06   20
Midway Skipper      16.01   41.29   0.00   0.00   41.29   07   16
Brimardon Star      15.75   41.31   0.15   0.15   41.31   08   33
Rockchase Samy      15.54   41.49   0.30   0.15   41.34   09   100
Flying Winner       15.95   41.22   0.00   0.15   41.37   10   
Lenson Earl         15.64   41.38   0.15   0.15   41.38   11   33
Larkhill Dipper     15.57   41.27   0.00   0.15   41.42   12   66
Well Park Lady      15.70   41.48   0.00   0.00   41.48   13   100
Wise Maldini        16.02   41.49   0.00   0.00   41.49   14   20
Romeo Turbo         15.64   41.37   0.00   0.15   41.52   15   25
Lavenders Grant     15.83   41.50   0.00   0.10   41.60   16   100
Go Big Hitter       16.06   41.91   0.45   0.15   41.61   17   66
Westmead Tommy      15.85   41.53   0.00   0.10   41.63   18   100
Bitofamonkey        15.67   41.68   0.00   0.00   41.68   19   33
Bubbly Eagle        16.36   41.78   0.15   0.15   41.78   20   25
Droopys Arsene      15.89   41.63   0.00   0.15   41.78   21   33
Capel Tom Dooley    15.64   41.64   0.00   0.15   41.79   22   100
Bubbly Sally        15.58   41.64   0.00   0.15   41.79   23   66
Chosen Man          15.40   41.72   0.00   0.15   41.87   24   100


The price shown is the best current price available excluding the exchanges.

Bubbly Totti at 3/1 may seem short, but he is running into form and is 3 lengths clear of anyone else. Lenson Joker has been running at the very top for quite a while and he looks flatter than he did 2 months ago. What is also of interest is the prices of those dogs ranked 2,3 & 4.

The majority of the bookies go ¼ odds 1,2,3,4 and based on the above I think backing Bubbly Totti win and Iceman brutus, Division Belle and Shelbourne Tiger e/w will hopefully return a profit.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing your analysis with us Mikey, very impressive.

Bit disappointed to see the Joker down the list ( ) but Iceman Brutus certainly looks a nice ew bet.  I'm going to have to give this some serious review before placing any wagers!  
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey i am really impressed. Bubbly Totti had the fastest time of the night. Division Belle also won a heat, and five of the first six selections qualified, despite three being in the same heat.

Last week all the talk was of Flying Winner, but talk was he didnt handle the Wimbledon track too well. Since injury caused him to be withdrawn we wont know.

Adds link for results:

http://www.thedogs.co.uk/trap6/re..._result_full.php?meetingid=214919
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lenson Joker finished last at odds of 2/5. Bubbly Totti won his semi in fine style and will surely be odds on for the final now.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the note Alan. I'm slightly dissapointed with how this competition has gone from  punting perspective with all 3 of the longer priced e/w picks being eliminated before the final.

Shelborne Tiger finished 5th in the quaters, narrowly missing out on 3rd by 0.02 seconds. Division Belle won her 1/4 final but was subsiquently disqualified for deliberate interference and Iceman Brutsus finished 4th in his semi despite his time being quicker than the 2nd semi winner.

That said, Bubbly Totti is now 2/7 to win and so hopefully a small profit overall. Lenson Joker, as Alan said finished last after trouble in running, but in my opinion never looked like the eventual winner as his form has definately tailed off over the last few months
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lenson Joker tore a muscle in his hind leg and is out till next year.Definate explanation for his woeful performance in the semi.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Brett, at least it explains his run. I just hope Lenson Joker recovers okay. I`m not sure if he would have beaten Bubbly Totti anyhow. Totti is in the form of his life, having won seven on the spin. His last defeat was in the Semis of the Yorkshire St Leger, when Midway Skipper beat him. Totti reversed the form in the final, and i expect Skipper to be his biggest danger in the final. 8/1 e/w seems a decent bet to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbly went from the front and won by 3 lengths. Just watched it after the Newcastle game.
Interesting the race before (9.25) as it was declared void as the 5 dog was 2 lengths in front going into the 3rd bend and was distracted by a crisp packet blowing across the track, he came to almost a complete standstill, incredible. Would have won easy.
Stewards thought this as well and declared the race void.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must say Mikey a brilliant piece of work on your behalf. You originally stated he was 3 lengths ahead of anything and sure enough he won the final easily by... 3 lengths
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay Mikey  

Will you share with us again mate?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blimey Mikey I have to say you know your greyhounds    Excellent work !!!


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