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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: Whatever your political views, I hope I speak for us all
when I say I don't want a right wing, neocon, idiotic Australian, who lives in America, decide the outcome of the British election
The fact that The Sun has switched sides unfortunately is a bigger news story than it should be. I'm no Labour supporter(although do, in general prefer them to the tories but that's not saying much) but it angers me when so many people pay attention to the views of someone who isn't even eligible to vote in this country anyway! What the hell does it have to do with him?
I will vote how I wish to vote. Not how the newspaper I read tells me to vote. I urge you all to do the same. If you want to vote Tory fine, vote Tory. But don't do it because Murdoch tells you to. Do it if you think that they best represent YOUR views(not Rupert Murdoch's). _________________ You're born with nothing, and better off that way,
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:17 am Post subject:
What percentage of Sun readers vote?
Are people that read the Sun really going to change their vote that easily? Did they wake up this morning thinking "Yesterday I was a Labour supporter, today I am a Tory"?
I think too much is being made of this, although it will obviously not exactly help Labours cause (which was probably lost anyway!) and the Torys must be rubbing their hands with glee.
Are the political leanings of papers as marked as they used to be and does that decide what paper you buy? Personally, it makes absolutely no difference to me. I switch from the Times, to the Guardian, to the Racing Post etc depending on the day of the week (supplement).
the tories will win the next election by a landslide, and the sun want to be able to run some terrible headline about how their support won it for them and how they backed the right horse etc, so they've switched allegiance. i dare say it also suits mr murdoch's business interests to be seen to be a supporter of whoever is in power. i don't suppose he really gives a toss who that might be.
the most worrying element of the whole issue is that the sun is the nation's favourite newspaper and its political allegiances are national news. we are a nation of cretins and the sun has monopolised the market in cretins who buy newspapers. i genuinely think that if they so chose they could start race riots, class wars, whatever they wanted. never underestimate how impressionable and ignorant people can be.
Are people that read the Sun really going to change their vote that easily? Did they wake up this morning thinking "Yesterday I was a Labour supporter, today I am a Tory"?
Surely we dont believe this class nonsense that those reading tabloids cant vote or think ? As to what effect the Sun may have, just look at the `97 election result. _________________ If at first you dont succeed..then skydiving isnt for you
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:16 am Post subject:
alansouthcoast wrote:
ngreggors wrote:
What percentage of Sun readers vote?
Are people that read the Sun really going to change their vote that easily? Did they wake up this morning thinking "Yesterday I was a Labour supporter, today I am a Tory"?
Surely we dont believe this class nonsense that those reading tabloids cant vote or think ? As to what effect the Sun may have, just look at the `97 election result.
Hence the question marks!!!!
It was a genuine question.
You were the one that brought class into the argument, not me. I'm well aware that a range of people read the Sun thanks.
the headline is todays news but going forward it is about the lilt they put on any given story. Take the news that gordon plans to stop tax relief on child care vouchers with the savings used to fund nursery places for less priveleged children.
Old sun headline might have read 'labour to provide nursery places for less priveleged children.' Headline now might read ' labour pours further misery on working families'
Over time biased repoerting will sway many people even if the instant shift of support doesn't. _________________ There are two certainties in life Death and Taxes they no longer tax betting so there may be a god
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On a personal note. If the SUN are urging us to vote Tory then I will probably vote for Labour. _________________ A tips only a good one if its a winning one
On a personal note. If the SUN are urging us to vote Tory then I will probably vote for Labour.
Now im wondering if you voted Conservative in `97 as the Sun said vote Labour ?
Ngreggors, point taken about the question mark. You would really be suprised just how much influence a popular paper like the Sun has. Blair was as good as elected when they swapped sides in `97. _________________ If at first you dont succeed..then skydiving isnt for you
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Whatever your political views, I hope I speak for us all
Jimbob wrote:
when I say I don't want a right wing, neocon, idiotic Australian, who lives in America, decide the outcome of the British election
The fact that The Sun has switched sides unfortunately is a bigger news story than it should be. I'm no Labour supporter(although do, in general prefer them to the tories but that's not saying much) but it angers me when so many people pay attention to the views of someone who isn't even eligible to vote in this country anyway! What the hell does it have to do with him?
I will vote how I wish to vote. Not how the newspaper I read tells me to vote. I urge you all to do the same. If you want to vote Tory fine, vote Tory. But don't do it because Murdoch tells you to. Do it if you think that they best represent YOUR views(not Rupert Murdoch's).
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On a personal note. If the SUN are urging us to vote Tory then I will probably vote for Labour.
Now im wondering if you voted Conservative in `97 as the Sun said vote Labour ?
Ngreggors, point taken about the question mark. You would really be suprised just how much influence a popular paper like the Sun has. Blair was as good as elected when they swapped sides in `97.
Hi ASC Their is more chance of me voting for the BNP than voting for the Tories. and I would never vote for the BNP.. That doesnt mean that I would vote for Labour everytime though. _________________ A tips only a good one if its a winning one
the headline is todays news but going forward it is about the lilt they put on any given story. Take the news that gordon plans to stop tax relief on child care vouchers with the savings used to fund nursery places for less priveleged children.
Old sun headline might have read 'labour to provide nursery places for less priveleged children.' Headline now might read ' labour pours further misery on working families'
Over time biased repoerting will sway many people even if the instant shift of support doesn't.
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