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Will Tiger bounce back at the USPGA?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Will Tiger bounce back at the USPGA? Reply with quote

Taxi for Tiger on Friday ,would you beleive it ,would you back the Tiger at best price 11/4 corals and baldfred to bounce back and win the last major of the season?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if it is a course with no big rough and nice soft greens and no wind he will once again prove to be the best target golf player of all time
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go down the bank, withdraw all your money and put it in a bag, then walk to the nearest bookies and place said money on Tiger to win the Open next year, leave bookies, sit back, relax and repeat process in reverse a year later.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if it is a course with no big rough and nice soft greens and no wind he will once again prove to be the best target golf player of all time


Yeah ok, he's a flat track bully.. Three US Opens and four Masters titles, including one US Open on one leg, and another US Open finishing 15 shots clear when no-one else got better than +3.

You probably won't respond to this, but that is one of the strangest statements I have ever read on a person who is one of the greatest sportsmen on the planet.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if it is a course with no big rough and nice soft greens and no wind he will once again prove to be the best target golf player of all time


Yeah ok, he's a flat track bully.. Three US Opens and four Masters titles, including one US Open on one leg, and another US Open finishing 15 shots clear when no-one else got better than +3.

You probably won't respond to this, but that is one of the strangest statements I have ever read on a person who is one of the greatest sportsmen on the planet.


And 3 Open titles too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if it is a course with no big rough and nice soft greens and no wind he will once again prove to be the best target golf player of all time


Yeah ok, he's a flat track bully.. Three US Opens and four Masters titles, including one US Open on one leg, and another US Open finishing 15 shots clear when no-one else got better than +3.

You probably won't respond to this, but that is one of the strangest statements I have ever read on a person who is one of the greatest sportsmen on the planet.


And 3 Open titles too.


I deliberately left those off as 2 were at St Andrews which really does favour his big hitting style. I was more trying to pick the ones which were proper tests.

However, I appreciate that in 30 years time, i will be saying "xxxxxxx is no Tiger Woods", so its fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harchiefan wrote:
Darren wrote:
geordie_racer wrote:
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if it is a course with no big rough and nice soft greens and no wind he will once again prove to be the best target golf player of all time


Yeah ok, he's a flat track bully.. Three US Opens and four Masters titles, including one US Open on one leg, and another US Open finishing 15 shots clear when no-one else got better than +3.

You probably won't respond to this, but that is one of the strangest statements I have ever read on a person who is one of the greatest sportsmen on the planet.


And 3 Open titles too.



Tiger is the best player in the world by a mile - Not sure about flat track bully, i think the point here is that the 'elements' can be a good leveller and can conspire to make the outcome of a golf tournament more of a lottery depending on weather, tee off times, rub of the green etc...

When the course and conditions remain consistent making it a 'level playing field', then the best in the world has a better chance of dominating come the finish..........
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can never have a true level playing field. The differences in swings mean that some courses will better suit certain players than others. Add to that conditions will always be slightly different at different times, so unless every golfer played the same hole at the same time, this is the way it is.

The best way to judge a player is over the course of a career then, when luck and lottery don't come into it. Hence Tiger Woods is already a legend.

I love Tiger Woods.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
harchiefan wrote:
Darren wrote:
geordie_racer wrote:
yes

if it is a course with no big rough and nice soft greens and no wind he will once again prove to be the best target golf player of all time


Yeah ok, he's a flat track bully.. Three US Opens and four Masters titles, including one US Open on one leg, and another US Open finishing 15 shots clear when no-one else got better than +3.

You probably won't respond to this, but that is one of the strangest statements I have ever read on a person who is one of the greatest sportsmen on the planet.


And 3 Open titles too.


I deliberately left those off as 2 were at St Andrews which really does favour his big hitting style. I was more trying to pick the ones which were proper tests.

However, I appreciate that in 30 years time, i will be saying "xxxxxxx is no Tiger Woods", so its fine.


Funnily enough,Jack Nicklaus won 2 of his 3 Opens at St.Andrews too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

modern golf is around 2 things; length off the tee and accurate iron play. putting a close third.

most modern gof is played on manicured couses with little real rough, greens which hold the ball and take spin, and where flying the ball high in is the way to play. hence my "target golf" dig which I knew would get the tiger fans biting

in my view the mark of a great golfer is how they play (a) when conditions are NOT in their favour and (b) when under pressure.

Tiger's record shows that he is a terrific player; it also, however, shows that he cannot come from behind on the 4th day of a major - he has never ever won from behind in such circumstances. f his 14 wins he has been leading in 11 and tied leader in 3

As an example (and I am not saying faldo is as good as woods, just that the gap isnt as great as people might think) won 4 of his 6 majors by putting others under pressure on the last day and coming from behind. (twice starting 5 shots behind the leader and once 6 - the masters when he demolished Greg Norman). Think of all the other players who were within 1,2,3,4 of the lead on those occassions, and the pressure FAldo piled onto the field. Put woods one behind and he isnt going to win on the form book.

Equally, get some big rough out there and make him go straight, not long, and he is like a rabbit in the headllights on occassion.

All i am saying is that Woods is as clear of the field as he is because his game is perfect for modern golf, in particular the american tour and majors. but get himon the seaside, let the wind blow  a bit and let the rough grow; he doesn't like it.

Maybe "target golf" is abit unfair, but its what the american tour is really about...As Seve (who I think was, overall, at least as good a golfer as Eldrick Woods) said after winning his first masters and being asked if he would be playing more in America,   "no, I want to go back to Europe and play on some hard golf courses"



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