jennywales
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10 October RacingThought I'd start this as I have picked up a few unconsidered trifles of information (not insider, available to the general public!) and offered for what they are worth (probably not much!)
In the first at Chepstow today Kilshannig goes for Jonjo O'Neill in a novices' hurdle, ridden by his conditional R P McLernon. Now nothing remarkable about that, you might say, except that Kilshannig has been bought out of/sent over from (not sure which, SL form doesn't include change of ownership, if any) John Oxx's yard, after a medium Flat career including a win at Dundalk on the sand in an 11f handicap back in May 2008. He hasn't raced for ages (385 days to be exact) which argues that he has had a problem.
Now all this doesn't necessarily mean he will win, or even get a place, but the other thing to note is that he is by Galileo out of an Ela Mana Mou mare....so a few (very few) of Jen's pennies are going on him e/w.
At Bangor in the 1520 Carte Diamond, probably better know for his Flat exploits (including a November Handicap win), is going in a handicap hurdle - it is not of course his first foray into hurdling, and he won a juvenile novices' at Musselburgh a while ago, as well as being PU in a Triumph Hurdle. I'm not sure yet if Jen's pennies will be going on this one.
Look out for Tempsford in the 1420 at Bangor.
Lastly, I have had an e/w Lucky 15 at Chepstow today:
1345: Kilshannig
1430: Galaxy Rock
1535: Beta the Boys
1610: Mission Control
Cappa Bleu (Foxhunter winner) was due out this weekend, but has not stayed in either at Chepstow or Bangor.
Have a good day everyone!
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Owl of Minerva
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Just going to copy and paste from Word my bets for the day:
| Quote: | 10/10/2009
Sole Power - £25 WIN @ 10/1 (Bet365)
Dhaular Dhar - £25 E/W @ 14/1 (Stan James)
Dorback - £25 WIN @ 9.8 (Betfair)
Opinion Poll - £25 WIN @ 8/1 (William Hill)
Mullein - £25 WIN @ 9/1 (Ladbrokes)
Lucky 15 - £2 WIN: Triple Aspect 6/1, Opinion Poll 7/1, Dhaular Dhar 14/1, Green Manalishi 8/1 (£30 - Betfred)
Lucky 15 - £2 WIN: Dorback 8/1, Sole Power 10/1, Triple Aspect 7/1, Quadrille 7/4 (£30 - Betfred)
Scoop 6 - £8 (Totesport)
Placepot - £2 (Totesport)
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Struggling to split Triple Aspect and Mullein in the Ascot sprint. Think one of these will take it. Got a nice price on Dhaular Dhar @ 14/1. No bigger than 10s now.
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theGoingStick
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| YAIYAM wrote: | I really like the look of Arthur Moore's Hepburn Bell today in the 3:25 @ Fairyhouse. From the horses in the race that raced on the flat you would have to say he was definately the best of them getting ratings of 70+ both sides of the water, the step up to 18F could suit as his last run on the flat was over 16F @ Dundalk and on his last hurdles run over 16F he was staying on to some effect after having some Interference a couple out. With his rating over hurdles only being 87 you have to think there is much more Improvement to come and in a race of this standard it is hard to see him not making the first 4.
His sire Intikhab has a near 20% strike rate at Fairyhouse in hurdle races on good ground and over the last 5 seasons Moore has a similar strike rate at the track with his hurdlers.
At 14/1 best price to me he is definately worth a bet 1/4 first 4 E/W or if the numbers go below 16 a strong place bet on Betfair |
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Hampton
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Looks to look at today:
Bound to be a few upsets on the Flat with late season races!
I really fancy Celtic Sultan E/W in the 2.05 at York. Stated to slip down the ratings & showed up well for along way last time. Taken 20/1.
I think Coolmix may well win the 3.10 boasting good form.
I've got the 3.45 down to Quest For Success & Hogmaneigh & can see the both being in the frame.
I think Aldaadro will win the 4.55 although Starla Dancer is a worthy E/W bet at 20/1.
I think [/b]King Fingal will win the 5.30. With Goodwood Starlight E/W at 25/1.
Ascot:
Very tricky meeting today but:
Sole Power - 2.15 Royal Rock Awinnersgame E/W - 2.55 Classic Vintage Coin Of The Realm E/W -3.30 Dubawi Phantom - 4.40 Mutamaashi - 5.15 Triple Dream Whiskey Junction E/W - 5.50 will pay their way!
Nice to see some decent jumping at Chepstow: 2.30 - Clyfee Hanger may well go well for our local trainer. Dantari E/W in the same race
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alansouthcoast
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I am looking at low draws in the sprints at York today. There was a definite bias yesterday, with the places in the 5f sprint being filled by those drawn 1,2 & 3. Green Manalishi is second fav and drawn 4, I am expecting either good things or a disaster. 
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Owl of Minerva
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | Just going to copy and paste from Word my bets for the day:
| Quote: | 10/10/2009
Sole Power - £25 WIN @ 10/1 (Bet365)
Dhaular Dhar - £25 E/W @ 14/1 (Stan James)
Dorback - £25 WIN @ 9.8 (Betfair)
Opinion Poll - £25 WIN @ 8/1 (William Hill)
Mullein - £25 WIN @ 9/1 (Ladbrokes)
Lucky 15 - £2 WIN: Triple Aspect 6/1, Opinion Poll 7/1, Dhaular Dhar 14/1, Green Manalishi 8/1 (£30 - Betfred)
Lucky 15 - £2 WIN: Dorback 8/1, Sole Power 10/1, Triple Aspect 7/1, Quadrille 7/4 (£30 - Betfred)
Scoop 6 - £8 (Totesport)
Placepot - £2 (Totesport)
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Struggling to split Triple Aspect and Mullein in the Ascot sprint. Think one of these will take it. Got a nice price on Dhaular Dhar @ 14/1. No bigger than 10s now. |
Adding:
Beckermet: £25 TBP @ 17/2 (PP)
Rank outsider but has been dropped to 90, drawn stall 1 which is good at York over 7f for a front runner. Also a big plus that his pace rivals are drawn 16,18,20 and so he may get his own way in front.
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Rowan
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Re: 10 October Racing | jennywales wrote: | At Bangor in the 1520 Carte Diamond, probably better know for his Flat exploits (including a November Handicap win), is going in a handicap hurdle - it is not of course his first foray into hurdling, and he won a juvenile novices' at Musselburgh a while ago, as well as being PU in a Triumph Hurdle. I'm not sure yet if Jen's pennies will be going on this one.
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Poor old Carte! I really fancied him for Penzance's Triumph Hurdle but he completely boiled over at the start - held up the race for a while, wasn't doing my blood pressure any good! I think he could be excused that race as he was cooked before the tapes went up.
It would be nice to see him run well, and maybe if he can get his own way in front...
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value seeker
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Done a perm today ,threw a few market movers in and others that I think are solid selections.
7x 15p lucky 15s in order abcf,abde,aceg,adfg,bcdg,befg cdeg
Any 5 winners would get me a full lucky 15 up
A.CHRISTMAS CARNIVAL 815 WOL
B SILLY WUPPLE 315
C.GULLIBLE GORDON 300
D.FAV 355 BAN
E.BEAT THE BOYS 335
F MUZO 845
G.NAMPOUR 410
STAKE£15.75.
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pericolo topo
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Quiet day today, just a couple of small bets to keep the eye in before next Saturday...
York 2:40 Mykingdomforahorse Keeps stepping up with improvements each time & plenty to like. Quite like Murcar too but otherwise not a terribly strong race.
York 3:15 Plenty of exposed types here and one of them might well get it however Sunnandaeg represents amazing value (22-1 betfair) given that he's effectively won both of his starts, the latter impressively (probably beat trees). I'll give him a go for interest's sake.
Ascot 3:30 Apparently all about whether Class is Class is good enough, but Record Breaker and Pevensey will give him something to think about. The latter has been improving again of late and doesn't need to improve much on his last run to win. Goes well on course and distance and might not quite get there if dropped out but hopefully he'll get a stiff pace and mow home.
Good luck everyone.
PT 
PS 6/4 about England to beat a depleted Ukraine away from home is the value bet of the day....
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FallonFacta
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York have offered free tickets for today to anyone who booked in advance for the Dante meeting - a mates got mine. I've decided to stay home and shout at Ruby at Chepstow 
Also sticking with Ryan Moore on Golden Stream and Class is Class
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lochsong
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | Dhaular Dhar - £25 E/W @ 14/1 (Stan James)
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I know you've backed this horse a couple of times before recently Owl, so I've followed you in today hoping that this is the race he wins. Hope I've not put the kiss of death on him. 
Got a stinking cold atm and can't be arsed to read form so going to copy a few of the board's selections today. Hope that's okay?
Good luck!
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Owl of Minerva
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Quite a few bets in this first race;
DD e/w @ 14/1
AT win @ 17, tbp @ 4.0 (20%,80%)
Beckermet tbp @ 17/2
+ combo f/c's and t/c's
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pericolo topo
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| lochsong wrote: |
Got a stinking cold atm and can't be arsed to read form so going to copy a few of the board's selections today. Hope that's okay?
Good luck! |
Me to LS; couldn't use the RP site at all last night so am picking on the hoof today.
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Gorg_George
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I swear everyone I know has a stinking cold or a chest infection. It's The Stand, it's finally happening.
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lochsong
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I wish people with stinking colds would stay at home. This one has worked its way around the office to me. 
So, £3.99 up after DD scrapes a place there.
Upward...
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Owl of Minerva
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Danzatrice w+p here
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lochsong
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Ancien Regime tbp @ 8/1
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lochsong
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| lochsong wrote: | | Ancien Regime tbp @ 8/1 |
DH for last place... 
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Owl of Minerva
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Liam Jones terrible on Triple Aspect
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Rochesterlad
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Pat Dobbs,clearly wasnt bothered about getting Bonnie Charlie up for 3rd at Ascot..Abit more effort please!!
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Machiavellian
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Gullibe Gordon looks much better than Decameron
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theGoingStick
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Considering the ride Laylas Hero got there he won well!
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lochsong
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | Considering the ride Laylas Hero got there he won well! |
One Cool Cat
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Owl of Minerva
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MMT to go well at a price here
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Owl of Minerva
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Group horse next year with cut
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Owl of Minerva
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Small bets on Confuchias 44, Quest for Success 16, Toufan Express 15.5
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lochsong
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Emptied the account on Green Manalishi.
Time to call it a day.
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Owl of Minerva
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | Lucky 15 - £2 WIN: Triple Aspect 6/1, Opinion Poll 7/1, Dhaular Dhar 14/1, Green Manalishi 8/1 (£30 - Betfred) |
Wish I'd gone e/w now - all placed but only one winner 
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theGoingStick
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This has to be one of the worst saturdays worth of racing for a while
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Owl of Minerva
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Just had £100 on Quadrille @ 13/8
He lost
But I didn't
Thanks Sportingbet - refunding any bet up to £100 that loses by 1/2l or less today at Ascot or York
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lochsong
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | This has to be one of the worst saturdays worth of racing for a while |
In what way?
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theGoingStick
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| lochsong wrote: | | theGoingStick wrote: | | This has to be one of the worst saturdays worth of racing for a while |
In what way? |
There's no quality hoprses on show, it's all group 3's comprising of horses who have no chance of winning a classic next season and handicaps with second raters in them. The jumps racing is not a lot better either.
I guess being sandwiched betwen the arc and champions weekends means it's always going to be a difficult day.
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Owl of Minerva
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Followed Hugh Taylor in on Togiak; 25 e/w @ 14s (Skybet - 1/5-1,2,3)
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Owl of Minerva
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | Followed Hugh Taylor in on Togiak; 25 e/w @ 14s (Skybet - 1/5-1,2,3) |
Held up right out the back of a slow pace, then finishes well under a pretty tender drive to miss 3rd by a short head Might well have been just about the best horse in the race imo given how it panned out
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Owl of Minerva
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6 of the 8 horses traded at 1.1 or less tbp in that Ascot race!
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Gorg_George
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Checklow doesn't look without a chance in the 5-15 here 17.0 looks very generous given the race, small saver on Tartan Gunna.
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jennywales
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | lochsong wrote: | | theGoingStick wrote: | | This has to be one of the worst saturdays worth of racing for a while |
In what way? |
There's no quality hoprses on show, it's all group 3's comprising of horses who have no chance of winning a classic next season and handicaps with second raters in them. The jumps racing is not a lot better either.
I guess being sandwiched betwen the arc and champions weekends means it's always going to be a difficult day. |
Yes, and I also think we get spoilt at this time of year; same thing happens in July. There's got to be somewhere for the "lesser" horses to go that isn't Catterick on a wet Wednesday in August or the sand at Wolves. At least owners get to run their lesser lights at places like York and Ascot. And I will give you money that you wouldn't be saying that about the jumps cards either, even if it is early in the season, if some of the entries had stayed in - I suspect that for many the ground was wrong.
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Gorg_George
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Isn't there racing at Santa Anita tonight?
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theGoingStick
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| Gorg_George wrote: | | Isn't there racing at Santa Anita tonight? |
Yes, Kieran Fallon is riding over there tonight.
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Gorg_George
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Cheers TGS, I can't seem to find markets on any of the bookies websites though, bet365 and williamhill have nothing, at least not that I can find?
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FallonFacta
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | Gorg_George wrote: | | Isn't there racing at Santa Anita tonight? |
Yes, Kieran Fallon is riding over there tonight. |
 Anyone worked out what time yet?
GG - try under Oakland - The pools are on VC Bet
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Gorg_George
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I've only got funds in my Bet365/WillHill accounts atm and can't find anything that would resemble Santa Anita (Oakland isn't on either). Can't get my head round this thought it would of been pretty straight forward 
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FallonFacta
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| Gorg_George wrote: | | I've only got funds in my Bet365/WillHill accounts atm and can't find anything that would resemble Santa Anita (Oakland isn't on either). Can't get my head round this thought it would of been pretty straight forward |
I know the feeling - I was getting very stroppy with various sites earlier - I would have had a fortune in my VC account but didn't - Thanks England
Small bets - just had to top up the account
C'mon Kieren!
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theGoingStick
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Fallon is in the Goodwood stakes at 11:30, I can't find the market on betfair for the life of me!
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Gorg_George
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | Fallon is in the Goodwood stakes at 11:30, I can't find the market on betfair for the life of me! |
Is that the one on Gitano Henando, I think we need someone to come save us from all this embarassment.
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Gorg_George
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Aha, well, on WH at least for some reason It's in the Ante-Post section, may be the same with everyone else, very odd seeing as it's 2 hours away...
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FallonFacta
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | Fallon is in the Goodwood stakes at 11:30, I can't find the market on betfair for the life of me! |
That's race 7 - so his first race is race 4 - half and hour per race so he's starting at 10.00 ish
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FallonFacta
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | theGoingStick wrote: | | Fallon is in the Goodwood stakes at 11:30, I can't find the market on betfair for the life of me! |
That's race 7 - so his first race is race 4 - half and hour per race so he's starting at 10.00 ish |
Or is that race 6 
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FallonFacta
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ATR are showing loads of American racing - but are they showing Santa Anita??
I'll wait 5 minutes If he's on they'll mention Fallon soon I'm sure
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theGoingStick
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| FallonFacta wrote: | ATR are showing loads of American racing - but are they showing Santa Anita??
I'll wait 5 minutes If he's on they'll mention Fallon soon I'm sure |
It's odd as there's the cards on the RP website, an article about Fallon riding there but no betting on it.
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Hampton
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| Hampton wrote: | Looks to look at today:
Bound to be a few upsets on the Flat with late season races!
I really fancy Celtic Sultan E/W in the 2.05 at York. Stated to slip down the ratings & showed up well for along way last time. Taken 20/1.
I think Coolmix may well win the 3.10 boasting good form.
I've got the 3.45 down to Quest For Success & Hogmaneigh & can see the both being in the frame.
I think Aldaadro will win the 4.55 although Starla Dancer is a worthy E/W bet at 20/1.
I think [/b]King Fingal will win the 5.30. With Goodwood Starlight E/W at 25/1.
Ascot:
Very tricky meeting today but:
Sole Power - 2.15 Royal Rock Awinnersgame E/W - 2.55 Classic Vintage Coin Of The Realm E/W -3.30 Dubawi Phantom - 4.40 Mutamaashi - 5.15 Triple Dream Whiskey Junction E/W - 5.50 will pay their way!
Nice to see some decent jumping at Chepstow: 2.30 - Clyfee Hanger may well go well for our local trainer. Dantari E/W in the same race |
If I had only done a R/FC on on the 2.30 at Chepstow on Saturday - 16/1 & 6/1 came to £101.00. Still can't moan about a 16/1 shot going in! Had a 20/1 winner at York to boost the bank balance too!! 
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accajacca
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good stuff hampton
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