awaywardlad
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6 Nations 2009I can see no reason why Wales will not win it again but probably no grand slam this time.I thnk of the "big 4" England and France have gone backwards whilst Ireland and Wales have maintained or improved.As Wales has England and Ireland to play in Cardiff it makes them likeliest winners.
Don't see sufficient improvement,yet, in Scotland and think italy will be a valiant last with their crucial fixture being at Murrayfield.
So it's Wales,Ireland,England,France,Scotland & Italy in that order imho.
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SkankyMinga
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Good article Awaywardlad. 
Wales -5 looks an outstanding bet for the opening weekend.
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theGoingStick
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Agreed good article awaywardlad, I seem to remember it being a profitable tournament for you last year hope it's the same this year 
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archie mackenzie
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quality article awaywardlad
do you not think that martin johnson will be looking to put on a show after the dissappoinments of the Autumn tests ???
cheers archie.
dont underestimate the scots 
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awaywardlad
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| archie mackenzie wrote: | quality article awaywardlad
do you not think that martin johnson will be looking to put on a show after the dissappoinments of the Autumn tests ???
cheers archie.
dont underestimate the scots |
Yes I'm sure Johnson will want to BUT to pick Goode and Ellis at halfback is not forwardthinking - much better to give youngsters some game time(I know Ellis is only 26 but he's not good enough).Also Italy usually start the 6 Nations well and their performances tail off as the tournament progresses.
Archie - I'm not underestimating the Scots but they have lost 2 vital forwards to injury for the game on Sunday and surely to frighten Wales Hadden's selection could/should have been a little bolder with the likes of Thom Evans picked.
Archie/TGS/SM - thank you.
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Machiavellian
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Backed Wales earlier in the week, not in love with the price but I think they'll be even shorter after Sunday.
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awaywardlad
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| Machiavellian wrote: | | Backed Wales earlier in the week, not in love with the price but I think they'll be even shorter after Sunday. |
Wales are traditionally poor favourites but having analysed it I can't see why they won't win it again as the fixtures fall better for them this year even though they have 3 away games.Haven't put them up as a bet as think 2/1 is stingy so have put up another grand Slam for them at 11/2 as a value bet.
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Machiavellian
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| awaywardlad wrote: | | Machiavellian wrote: | | Backed Wales earlier in the week, not in love with the price but I think they'll be even shorter after Sunday. |
Wales are traditionally poor favourites but having analysed it I can't see why they won't win it again as the fixtures fall better for them this year even though they have 3 away games.Haven't put them up as a bet as think 2/1 is stingy so have put up another grand Slam for them at 11/2 as a value bet. |
It's a shame Henson is out of Sunday. Henson and Roberts at 12 and 13 could be a master stroke by Galtland. I'm looking forward to seeing them.
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jonoefc1
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You could do a lot worse than backing Julien Malzieu to be
France's 'Top Tryscorer' in the competition. The Clermont winger
has been racking up scores for his club all season and he comes into this
Six Nations in the best form of his life.
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FallonFacta
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C'mon England!!
But not too much - I've gone for Italy at +9 and +15 
I hope the brothers do well - I like a story!
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FallonFacta
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I probably shouldn't bet on Rugby 
Ireland to win! -3
(Ohh Ahh Cantona)
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Machiavellian
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| FallonFacta wrote: |
(Ohh Ahh Cantona) |
DRINK A DRINK A DRINK TO ERIC THE KING THE KING THE KING!
HE'S THE LEADER OF OUR FOOTBALL TEAM!
HE'S THE GREATEST CENTRE FORWARD THAT THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN!
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FallonFacta
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| Machiavellian wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: |
(Ohh Ahh Cantona) |
DRINK A DRINK A DRINK TO ERIC THE KING THE KING THE KING!
HE'S THE LEADER OF OUR FOOTBALL TEAM!
HE'S THE GREATEST CENTRE FORWARD THAT THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN! |
Love the song - But please take off CAPS 
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FallonFacta
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Damn - C'mon Ireland!
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Machiavellian
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Come on Ireland!
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Machiavellian
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YESSS!
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FallonFacta
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Still stressed!
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FallonFacta
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FallonFacta
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Hoooo ray!
Great game - a bit too stressful to bet on though! I might try to just watch tomorrow 
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Machiavellian
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Well played!
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FallonFacta
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Anyone watching??
Amazing National Anthems 
I've gone for Wales to get to 10 points first and Wales at -10
I do wish Henson was playing - always nice to have something good to look at!
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FallonFacta
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 Maybe playing rugby is more dangerous than taking e! Can't believe he's on his feet
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FallonFacta
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Slightly stressed about the -10 now - C'mon Wales 
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FallonFacta
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No way! He didn't get that! 
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SkankyMinga
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Yep I was relieved too. Thank God for TV replays.
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archie mackenzie
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you been on the dog and bone to frank awaywardlad
hes made changes to the back line with both evans brothers starting but from watching last weeks game it seemed obvious to me it was the front 5 who needed changing after being destroyed by the welsh
surely time is running out for hadden,if we suffer a heavy loss or another performance like last week then maybe its time for 
cheers archie
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archie mackenzie
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you think its curtains for bristol after tonights humping by the falcons awaywardlad ???
cheers archie.
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ezzoud
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Going into Cardiff soon to try and blag a ticket. I actually think England are value today giving up 12 points. Not betting though, far too nervous already.
Come on Wales!
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ezzoud
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England GETTING 12 points, of course.
just think you can disregard the Italy game for formbook purposes.
Today could be niggly and discipline will be vital.
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jonoefc1
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Betting today:
1 point that Wales' total points will be under 26.5 against England @ 5/6 with several bookies.
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jonoefc1
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For those of you out there who think Wales will win without England getting many points at all, surely the 'race to 10 points' at 1/2 (Wales) looks like buying money??
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FallonFacta
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I need to see what I've got left before I worry about Wales and England!
First off - Scotland +8 - I have a vague theory that they were't that bad last week (when they weren't knocking themselves out), plus France always give away penalties (I have nothing to back this up though), plus I always go against France
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FallonFacta
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Three point difference at half-time - going well! Glad it's not the only thing to watch though!!
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FallonFacta
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | Three point difference at half-time - going well! Glad it's not the only thing to watch though!! |
 Me and my big mouth!
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FallonFacta
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9 points difference and 7 minutes to go - I'll watch the horses
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Machiavellian
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John Inverdale is the most middle class man alive.
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Machiavellian
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Fat women in glittery cow boy hats and ill fitting red shirts.
Christ
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Machiavellian
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Colwyn Bay!
No sod in Colwyn likes Rugby.
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FallonFacta
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Gone for Wales -17
Sorry England - but I hardly know you anymore 
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theGoingStick
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I've gone for the Red Dragons at -9.
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FallonFacta
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Maybe this won't go as expected!
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Machiavellian
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | 9 points difference and 7 minutes to go - I'll watch the horses |
You were robbed!
How forward was that pass 
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FallonFacta
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| Machiavellian wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | 9 points difference and 7 minutes to go - I'll watch the horses |
You were robbed!
How forward was that pass |
No idea - I might have been hiding behind a cushion! 
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FallonFacta
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If Wales can't slaughter England it's time to back Ireland  Shame's there's no books open 
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theGoingStick
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | If Wales can't slaughter England it's time to back Ireland Shame's there's no books open |
Chase those loses
Come on Wales a few more points please 
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FallonFacta
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | If Wales can't slaughter England it's time to back Ireland Shame's there's no books open |
Chase those loses |
Shouldn't that be losses???? Sorry I'm a grumpy when I'm not winning!!!!!
| theGoingStick wrote: | | Come on Wales a few more points please |
No chance!
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theGoingStick
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | theGoingStick wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | If Wales can't slaughter England it's time to back Ireland Shame's there's no books open |
Chase those loses |
Shouldn't that be losses???? Sorry I'm a grumpy when I'm not winning!!!!! |
It's a word I very rarely use so it's no wonder I spelt it incorrectly
| FallonFacta wrote: | | theGoingStick wrote: | | Come on Wales a few more points please |
No chance! |
Close but no cigar, fair play to the bookies they got that handicap spot on.
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awaywardlad
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| archie mackenzie wrote: | you think its curtains for bristol after tonights humping by the falcons awaywardlad ???
cheers archie. |
Yes
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awaywardlad
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I thought England were excellent today and possibly for the first time since Gatland/Edwards have taken over Wales were outthought!
BUT Johnson needs to be done with yesterdays men - Vickery/Bortwick/Goode/Tindall/Cueto - and give youth it's chance NOW.
Wales are now a world class side and could well win another Grand Slam.
Well done to scotland - too little too late Frank.
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jennywales
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If England had not lacked discipline they would have been closer, but I still don't think they would have won (just!)
Armitage, when he got the chance, was superb.
A young relative (13) has just "signed" (is that possible?) for Harlequins. I must learn more about club rugby.....
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ezzoud
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Good match in Cardiff, and a great day out. Not feeling so lively today.
I found a good bet yesterday in Corals - bet on 1st try scorer and get the same stake on last try scorer free. Did Byrne and Halfpenny unfortunately, but it willbe worth looking out for for future.
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shamardal84
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I personally think if Wilkinson was in the team yesterday england would have won, they just miss him too much. But credit to Wales who done well to win
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archie mackenzie
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hello awaywardlad
come on a turgid affair at murryfield
dont worry the evans brother will run riot trys galore
im already on scotland (fingers crossed) to spank the italians
cheers archie
has ever good luck with your punts
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awaywardlad
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| archie mackenzie wrote: | hello awaywardlad
come on a turgid affair at murryfield
dont worry the evans brother will run riot trys galore
im already on scotland (fingers crossed) to spank the italians
cheers archie
has ever good luck with your punts |
Archie,I hope you're right and I'm wrong as I'd love to see Scotland win by 30 points whilst scoring a bucketful of tries.BUT I fear the Italian aim will be to stop Scotland playing by conceding penalties and keeping in touch on the scoreboard.If that's the case I just hope the referee remembers to use his cards frequently.
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FallonFacta
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Sorry to be a girl  But Gavin Henson's on 
I feel guilty for backing France
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awaywardlad
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| FallonFacta wrote: | Sorry to be a girl But Gavin Henson's on
I feel guilty for backing France |
1.Why feel sorry
2.Well done for backing France
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lewijay
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I feel guilty for backing France [/quote]
BBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
lol.
France played very well though and just kept plugging on. immense forward play, Wales just lacking a little.
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jennywales
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Yes, I thought their second half was disappointing - they couldn't seem to get to the game line at all. French played very well, what an improvement!
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FallonFacta
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| awaywardlad wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | Sorry to be a girl But Gavin Henson's on
I feel guilty for backing France |
1.Why feel sorry
2.Well done for backing France |
Cos being a girl my common sense goes a bit skew wiff when someone who looks like a Roman God plays
I didn't look at the betting before the game but got 5/4 when France were down 3-6 - Gives me something to play with today.
Looking forward to Ireland v England No idea about bets yet - depends on the horses!
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theGoingStick
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I've gone for the mighty Scot's (-9) to bt Italy. I think they've shown enough to cope with Italy who've been beaten by all the teams so far by 20+ points.
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jennywales
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Ireland for me today but not by much. O'Driscoll and O'Gara will have to be at the top of their game.....Anyway hope the English get stuffed, whatever the margin!
PS FF I'm sorry, but thinking the preening, ill-disciplined, egotistic, bad-mannered, selfish Gavin Henson is worth a second look is beyond me!
But what do I know....??!!!
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FallonFacta
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| jennywales wrote: | PS FF I'm sorry, but thinking the preening, ill-disciplined, egotistic, bad-mannered, selfish Gavin Henson is worth a second look is beyond me!
But what do I know....??!!! |
I pride myself on having odd taste
Gone for Ireland to win -14 - Sorry England but I don't know any of you!
Plus 1st score an Irish Try
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FallonFacta
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And O'Driscoll to score first and last try - I really am going now
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FallonFacta
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What is it about rugby that makes grown men cry? I'm sure the anthems are there to wind them up even further!
I'm feeling a ridiculous amount of guilt betting against England! Brian Moore isn't helping!!
I started following 5 Nations properly when I worked in a university conference centre from about 1991 - Then it was all Rob Andrew, Will Carling and the Devine Jeremy Guscott!! And a few other scary lookers like Brian Moore and Martin Johnson!!!
The Uni ran some Open University type science-courses where they'd have to stay the weekend and we organised the tea break to coincide with the beginning of the 2nd half. I had to watch the first half, make tea and coffee at half time and try and update them before the 2nd half started... wasn't long before I became obsessed enough not to make notes.
We were supposed to wait-on in a white shirt and black skirt - we actually waited on in a England White Shirt (and black skirt )
That time is probably where my dislike of France comes from - and why I feel SO guilty about betting against England
Why do I need to explain myself?
Ramble over!
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Owl of Minerva
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O'Gara
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FallonFacta
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | O'Gara |
Third time lucky!
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theGoingStick
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Terrible game of Rugby, the worst I've seen for ages.
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FallonFacta
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | Terrible game of Rugby, the worst I've seen for ages. |
Stress on the field - Stress watching it I blame the tears before kick-off!
Any try would be nice!
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FallonFacta
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | And O'Driscoll to score first and last try - I really am going now |
 
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FallonFacta
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | O'Gara |
He's becoming a problem 
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geordie_racer
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is it any wonder rugby league is becoming increasingly popular
i think i will switch over to the diy channel and watch some paint dry
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theGoingStick
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| geordie_racer wrote: | | i think i will switch over to the diy channel and watch some paint dry |
It's a bit like that
FallonFacta is on fire today 
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FallonFacta
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | | i think i will switch over to the diy channel and watch some paint dry |
It's a bit like that
FallonFacta is on fire today |
Not really - I was tepid/cold earlier!
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FallonFacta
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| FallonFacta wrote: |
Gone for Ireland to win -14 - Sorry England but I don't know any of you!
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Sorry - I'm thinking the English may have gone Eight points difference now but surely Ireland will score a couple of times more rather than England
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FallonFacta
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 Don't know if I'm happy or sad!
Can't believe this is under 27 points right now!
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theGoingStick
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Didn't England have 2 sin bins in that game ? How on earth are they meant to win if they do silly things like that.
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FallonFacta
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | And O'Driscoll to score first and last try - I really am going now |
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Am I right in thinking he got the first and only try - so he got the last try too????
Did I get 11/1 twice?
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awaywardlad
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Scotland game was not good but the fare on offer in Dublin was dire.Sport is an entertainment business and this was not
This is a good opportunity to introduce the new rugby union correspondent - FF as she knows more than I do
What number is the DIY channel Geordie?
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SkankyMinga
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | And O'Driscoll to score first and last try - I really am going now |
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Am I right in thinking he got the first and only try - so he got the last try too????
Did I get 11/1 twice? |
Didn't England score a try right near the end. 
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FallonFacta
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| awaywardlad wrote: | This is a good opportunity to introduce the new rugby union correspondent - FF as she knows more than I do
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I can see the Article now - Follow all the pretty players
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FallonFacta
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| SkankyMinga wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | And O'Driscoll to score first and last try - I really am going now |
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Am I right in thinking he got the first and only try - so he got the last try too????
Did I get 11/1 twice? |
Didn't England score a try right near the end. |
Well you're just the harbinger of doom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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awaywardlad
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | awaywardlad wrote: | This is a good opportunity to introduce the new rugby union correspondent - FF as she knows more than I do
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I can see the Article now - Follow all the pretty players |
So it's merging this with the sexy gentlemen thread then?
And ,yes, sadly England did score a late try FF
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FallonFacta
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| awaywardlad wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | awaywardlad wrote: | This is a good opportunity to introduce the new rugby union correspondent - FF as she knows more than I do
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I can see the Article now - Follow all the pretty players |
So it's merging this with the sexy gentlemen thread then?
And ,yes, sadly England did score a late try FF |
Ah well - I can cope with that dissapointment!!
Pretty Sexy Gentleman Rugby Players
If I knew how to merge a thread I would!!!
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awaywardlad
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Phew saved
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archie mackenzie
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | I've gone for the mighty Scot's (-9) to bt Italy. I think they've shown enough to cope with Italy who've been beaten by all the teams so far by 20+ points. |
WHOOO HOOO
THE MIGHTY SCOTS never let you down thegoingstick
get yourself along to twickenham in a few weeks to support the boys
cheers archie
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archie mackenzie
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just out of intrest awaywardlad what price where england to finish 2nd bottom???
not saying it will happen but if we can find our autumn form it just might
cheers archie
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awaywardlad
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| archie mackenzie wrote: | just out of intrest awaywardlad what price where england to finish 2nd bottom???
not saying it will happen but if we can find our autumn form it just might
cheers archie |
Not sure what they were but they are currently 6/1 to do so.
I wouldn't bet on it though as after a fine performance against Wales France will probably play like drains and lose to England!!
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FallonFacta
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Ireland -6 at evens
Wales -18 at evens
O'Driscoll to score first and last try - 11/1 each - It worked last time
I promise no pic's of players this week
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awaywardlad
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| FallonFacta wrote: | Ireland -6 at evens
Wales -18 at evens
O'Driscoll to score first and last try - 11/1 each - It worked last time
I promise no pic's of players this week |
Promise
First tryscorers - Jonathon Thomas (W) 22/1 David Wallace(I) 25/1
Last tryscorers - Shane Williams(W) 6/1 B O'D (I) 11/1
4 win singles + 4 win doubles
Good luck FF
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FallonFacta
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 Maybe I just have post-Chelts blues - Not exactly thrilling
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theGoingStick
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | Maybe I just have post-Chelts blues - Not exactly thrilling |
A lot of the six nations I've watched have been kicking games, it looks like this Scotland vs Ireland is turning into one as well.
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millsy
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | Ireland -6 at evens |
Gonna be close! The Paddy Power handicap was -7 so looks like I'm a point short
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FallonFacta
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| millsy wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | Ireland -6 at evens |
Gonna be close! The Paddy Power handicap was -7 so looks like I'm a point short |
I was deciding between 8/11 -6 or evens -7 And I went for -7 as I thought Ireland would stroll that! My typo was probably wishful thinking
Sorry you missed out too Millsy
No bet for me tomorrow!
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theGoingStick
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Only one result possible tomorrow :-
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millsy
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | millsy wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | Ireland -6 at evens |
Gonna be close! The Paddy Power handicap was -7 so looks like I'm a point short |
I was deciding between 8/11 -6 or evens -7 And I went for -7 as I thought Ireland would stroll that! My typo was probably wishful thinking
Sorry you missed out too Millsy
No bet for me tomorrow! |
Gutted!
Fair play to the bookies, got it spot on then.
Make it back on England tomorrow....
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awaywardlad
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | Maybe I just have post-Chelts blues - Not exactly thrilling |
You may have PCB(new illness which many suffer from I think )but both games were very ordinary with FAR too much kicking.
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FallonFacta
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| awaywardlad wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | Maybe I just have post-Chelts blues - Not exactly thrilling |
You may have PCB(new illness which many suffer from I think )but both games were very ordinary with FAR too much kicking. |
I'm still suffering - I've prescribed breakfast!
I'd love England to win today - and I was confident they could yesterday. Surely Martin Johnson could calm them down and cut out the penalties... Then I saw his interview on the Beeb - Maybe they twisted it - but he seemed hysterical and not someone who could instill control into anyone
I might find a good book to read from 3pm - just keep one eye on the TV
No bet - I can't bet on France again
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FallonFacta
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At 4/5 for France to win - no handicap - I've had a bet after all
And first score to be a French penalty
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theGoingStick
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| FallonFacta wrote: | At 4/5 for France to win - no handicap - I've had a bet after all
And first score to be a French penalty |
Sacrebleu
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FallonFacta
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What happened - I was watching Ruby!! Did they give England a seven point start!!
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