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lochsong

Capello - two years on

Axed the Wags.

Learnt how to speak English.

Knocked the lads into shape. I don't know much about team selection but seems to be working and looks like the boys can go into this world cup with a dignity that has been lacking in recent outings.

Just reading an article in the Daily Maul and last paragraph is:

There are no distractions. In fact, what he has achieved should make this country proud to be Italian, I mean English. Yes, English.
CanfordCliffs

A truly great manager.

I'm very grateful to him for rescuing the disaster created by the pasty faced pillock with the brolly.
Owl of Minerva

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/...reat-deal-says-Fabio-Capello.html

Interesting little piece
lenahan

Im not the biggest Cappello fan but hes done a good job with England so far.

That little piece is interesting. 80M is probably alot more than youd expect to get any player in world football so utd did do well in that sense.

But ronaldo was worth far more to utd than 80m.

Sponsorship, shirt sales, value to the team etc etc

You can see why madrids policy makes sense to them.

Ronaldo is possibly worth 200m in that sense.
penleguin

Capello's done well so far. Best thing about him is he doesn't give a f*** what anyone else says and the players know it. If they don't do it, he'll bin them - superstars or not - that is worth a lot.

Now he has to show he can take England further than Sven....
johnnio

He's a hero at the minute as he's got England to the World Cup. If England don't win, or at least get to the final then he'll be vilified as another loser, donkey, turnip, swede, or whatever the gutter press use to describe him.

And the english public will do like they always do and agree with them.
MT VESSELS

Nothing but admiration for the guy.
Really knows his stuff and doesnt seem influenced at all by the media and the fans.
He has always said that he would gib it after the World Cup so him being villified will have no affect at all.
Above all he seems to command the respect of the players which has been seriously lacking for a number of years.
One of the best decisions the FA have ever made

MT jnr
kickingkyle

Weve only qualified, the hypes started already. If we get to the semi's judge him after that!
CanfordCliffs

kickingkyle wrote:
Weve only qualified, the hypes started already. If we get to the semi's judge him after that!


Absolute nonsense. Praise isn't hype. And to date he's done fantastically well. England managers get more than their fair share of criticism so praise where it is due is only fair. We've no divine right to be semi finalists eiither so that is a flawed benchmark imho.
timeform

the one difference between capello and the last 5 england managers is that he understands tactics, something since terry venables we have missed.

I tactical switch away to croatia was a masterstroke, i read somewhere billic looked like a rabbit caught in head lights.

Some far so good and there will be plenty of hype i am sure,  but if its england spain in the semis i would go into the match knowing cappello has planned for everything, then its about luck.

FC has won 7 serie a's 2 la liga and a champions league, if he cant get england to perform at their best at a major tournament then nobody will


TF
kickingkyle

CanfordCliffs wrote:
kickingkyle wrote:
Weve only qualified, the hypes started already. If we get to the semi's judge him after that!


Absolute nonsense. Praise isn't hype. And to date he's done fantastically well. England managers get more than their fair share of criticism so praise where it is due is only fair. We've no divine right to be semi finalists eiither so that is a flawed benchmark imho.


I forgot im not allowed an opinion! We have played a Croatia side who arent the side they were last year and beat them. The best we have looked is the second half against Holland and considering the best players didnt start in a competitve match i cant have any of this we are different etc.
CanfordCliffs

So you are saying we haven't improved since MacLaren?
kickingkyle

Im not saying that but im not putting my tongue in Cappellos ass just yet anyway.
Rochesterlad

kickingkyle wrote:
Im not saying that but im not putting my tongue in Cappellos ass just yet anyway.
CanfordCliffs

kickingkyle wrote:
Im not saying that but im not putting my tongue in Cappellos ass just yet anyway.


I won't dignify that with a proper reply.
Gorg_George

kickingkyle wrote:
Im not saying that but im not putting my tongue in Cappellos ass just yet anyway.


 
Rochesterlad

CanfordCliffs wrote:
kickingkyle wrote:
Im not saying that but im not putting my tongue in Cappellos ass just yet anyway.


I won't dignify that with a proper reply.


It was a funny one if nothing else!!
CanfordCliffs

Rochesterlad wrote:
CanfordCliffs wrote:
kickingkyle wrote:
Im not saying that but im not putting my tongue in Cappellos ass just yet anyway.


I won't dignify that with a proper reply.


It was a funny one if nothing else!!


Funny?

Pathetic imho.
Machiavellian

Handbags at dawn
Gorg_George

Ooh er mrs.
lochsong

kickingkyle wrote:
Im not saying that but im not putting my tongue in Cappellos ass just yet anyway.


I hate to think what you'll be putting in Capello's ass if England win the World Cup.    
three out

Capello has done well, as have the players, since the Maclaren episode.  However, in the context of our group I don't think he should be called the second coming or anything.  The teams we have played have been weak IMHO - but he has beaten what has been put in front of him and he couldn't of done more than that.

I honestly believe though that he will achieve no more than recent managers at major tournaments because our players aren't good enough.  Quarter final is about our level - it represents where we are - somewhere between 8th and 5th in the world.  If we get to a semi-final I would say we have achieved akin to a PB in athletics terms and that would be a success.

We have a series of weaknesses in our first 11 that for me will ultimately prevent us going further than normal.  Our Goalkeeper is a problem, as is our right back position.  Our wide players are unconvincing and we are short of a striker of the highest calibre to play alongside Rooney.  Capello is probably one of the best managers we could have got - but he will struggle to gloss over those weaknesses against the very best teams IMHO.
Rochesterlad

three out wrote:
Capello is probably one of the best managers we could have got - but he will struggle to gloss over those weaknesses against the very best teams IMHO.


So true!!
The_Pilgarlic

I'll give him credit for something he has achieved already.... proving Lampard and Gerrard could play together and shutting up the pathetic media on the subject! (oh, and a good number of sheep on here!)
lochsong

three out wrote:

We have a series of weaknesses in our first 11 that for me will ultimately prevent us going further than normal.  Our Goalkeeper is a problem, as is our right back position.  Our wide players are unconvincing and we are short of a striker of the highest calibre to play alongside Rooney.  Capello is probably one of the best managers we could have got - but he will struggle to gloss over those weaknesses against the very best teams IMHO.


I'm no expert, everyone knows that, but I have to disagree with you here Three.

England have some star players but imo getting them to gell together as a striking force seems to have been the weakness.

Brasil has never needed their team to gell back of the forwards. They don't need a keeper or a defence really.

That's because they are born strikers. They don't pass the ball back, they take it forward and score goals.

That, imo, is a winning attitude that Capello is instilling into the England side.

Owl of Minerva

three out wrote:
Capello has done well, as have the players, since the Maclaren episode.  However, in the context of our group I don't think he should be called the second coming or anything.  The teams we have played have been weak IMHO - but he has beaten what has been put in front of him and he couldn't of done more than that.

I honestly believe though that he will achieve no more than recent managers at major tournaments because our players aren't good enough.  Quarter final is about our level - it represents where we are - somewhere between 8th and 5th in the world.  If we get to a semi-final I would say we have achieved akin to a PB in athletics terms and that would be a success.

We have a series of weaknesses in our first 11 that for me will ultimately prevent us going further than normal.  Our Goalkeeper is a problem, as is our right back position.  Our wide players are unconvincing and we are short of a striker of the highest calibre to play alongside Rooney.  Capello is probably one of the best managers we could have got - but he will struggle to gloss over those weaknesses against the very best teams IMHO.


+1

Nicely put
johnnio

I think England's 1st 11 is very good. The bench, and in particular lack of depth up front, added with little defensive cover will be your undoing. If they lose Gerrard, you have Joe Cole coming back in, if Lampard gets injured you have Carrick or Beckham. I'm not convinced with the right side of midfield, Lennon's a show pony and a poor player in his inability to cross a ball properly; a decent full back will push him wide and play him out of the game. I remember Barcelona under Cruyff playing Man Utd, and Kanchelskis absolutely flew past Barca's left back in the 1st half and looked a big problem. Cruyff put Nadal - the Beast - on him, and Nadal just patrolled the gap between the centre and Man U's right side and cut out every single ball to Kanchelskis, he never got a kick in the 2nd half and Utd lost the game. Beckham's still England's best hope out there. I really like Wright-Phillips, but he's annoyingly inconsistent. I don't see cover at the back either, am not convinced by Upson. Lescott is a better cover in the left back position for me, and I don't see much else I'd be comfortable with; Ledley King's superb, but they'll hardly chance him with his dodgy knees.
shamardal84

People shouldn't judge us on our Spain game alone. When you think we have beaten a team like Croatia comfortably, twice, then that says a lot for England. When you look at the other teams in the world a lot are just on a par with England. Spain are out there on their own. Normally the strong South American contigent look weaker than normal. I think the World Cup will be dominated by Europe and can see England making the semi's at least if they avoid Spain.

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