newyorktony
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fri 16thon friday in 4-55newmarket gerald butlers agente parmigiano is very well fancied and is expected to go well, Fallon is booked
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Jimbob
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Thanks Tony. I'm considering going to HQ tomorrow if I decide I can justify it financially. Will definitely have a bet if I go. Maybe have one if I don't 
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david-uk
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Bushman in the Group 3 for me, been waiting a while for him, hope the ground is not too fast.
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Owl of Minerva
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| david-uk wrote: | | Bushman in the Group 3 for me, been waiting a while for him, hope the ground is not too fast. |
I think Glass Harmonium will be hard to beat in this. Nothing wrong with its run last time on unfavourable weight terms and will strip fitter here and be more suited to the stiffer 9f tomorrow. 9/2 looks nice and suggests people think he ran moderately last time, which i disagree with.
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Rowan
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Much to my amazement there's some decent sized fields at Cheltenham tomorrow, despite the gd/firm ground. Haven't looked at the card yet but can't wait 
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theBear
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Guys and gals,
Stable very confident about The Jigsaw Man in the last at Cheltenham. He's schooled brilliantly and is fit as a flea.
Phillip Hobbs had one entered at the 5 day stage who may have troubled TJM but wasn't declared so should be pretty straight forward
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Jimbob
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The info's coming in thick & fast today! Thanks for that The Bear
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newyorktony
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Re: fri 16thhave took the 14s e/w w/paddy power
| newyorktony wrote: | | on friday in 4-55newmarket gerald butlers agente parmigiano is very well fancied and is expected to go well, Fallon is booked |
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lochsong
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| Rowan wrote: | | Much to my amazement there's some decent sized fields at Cheltenham tomorrow, despite the gd/firm ground. Haven't looked at the card yet but can't wait |
Have another glass of wine and contemplate.
The wbx may throw up a contestant for March (that race may be on Saturday though - another glass  )
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lenahan
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | david-uk wrote: | | Bushman in the Group 3 for me, been waiting a while for him, hope the ground is not too fast. |
I think Glass Harmonium will be hard to beat in this. Nothing wrong with its run last time on unfavourable weight terms and will strip fitter here and be more suited to the stiffer 9f tomorrow. 9/2 looks nice and suggests people think he ran moderately last time, which i disagree with. |
Fancy Rio in this. Serious G1 form at 3 over 8F. Off injured..awfull return first time up the other month but in ground far from ideal and was eased heavily when beaten. Ran well lto just going down to confront over the mile. Looked to be heading back to his true level there. Hoping the step up in trip is fine and cherry ripe to win after his last outing. Not sure if ill back at the price though. Hebridean, Charlie and Glass Harmoniam the dangers for me. Hebridean i quite fancy to go ok with fallon on board so that could be a good bet at 14/1.
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Death n Taxes
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one bet for me today.
The 345 at Newmarket a load of fillies looking to get some black type before asking STS if he would like to pop round for a quick cuddle.
Stoute runs two with Leocorno Moore's choice and the likely favourate although it is difficult to split the pair and it wouldn't suprise me to see the second string win.
However the master of the filly Mr Cecil runs Gripholm Castle. This horse has run fewer times than the stoute pair and probably has more scope for improvement. Currently 5-1 on betfair and thats me kind of price. On the form I can't her out of the first 3 and should be an ew bet to nothing.
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lenahan
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| Death n Taxes wrote: | one bet for me today.
The 345 at Newmarket a load of fillies looking to get some black type before asking STS if he would like to pop round for a quick cuddle.
Stoute runs two with Leocorno Moore's choice and the likely favourate although it is difficult to split the pair and it wouldn't suprise me to see the second string win.
However the master of the filly Mr Cecil runs Gripholm Castle. This horse has run fewer times than the stoute pair and probably has more scope for improvement. Currently 5-1 on betfair and thats me kind of price. On the form I can't her out of the first 3 and should be an ew bet to nothing. |
agreed. looked between leocarno and Gripsholm Castle to me too with preference for the latter. Also think she looks an ew to nothing.
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lenahan
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Here are my selections for the day including the boards tips that ill follow in on: Going to do them in some various combo bets as well as the singles and ews that i list. Fun stakes as proper bets are for tommoro
Friday 16th October:
235pm Newmarket CHAMPAGNE STYLE 12/1 EW
255pm Cheltenham SNAP TIE 4/6 WIN
310pm Newmarket RIO DE LA PLATA 5/2 WIN
345pm Newmarket GRIMSHOLPE CASTLE 5/1 EW
355pm Redcar MEDICINAL COMPOUND 3/1 EW
455pm Newmarket AGENTE PARMIGIANO 12/1 EW
550pm Cheltenham THE JIGSAW MAN 11/8 WIN
Edit to Add:
Joining Skanky & adding:
345pm Newmarket FLORA TREVELYAN 20/1 EW
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Owl of Minerva
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Can't wait to see SNAP TIE's chase debut. Always looked like a chaser, loves fast ground and loves to be fresh. Therefore I'm expecting an impressive performance from him today.
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glennie1970
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one very interesting runner today
SHALLAL 4.55 Newmarket
Looks like they have been waiting for fast ground and was withdrawn from Ascot recently when given draw 1 which obviously would have scuppered any chances he had. Has had 2 runs on soft this year which appears not to suit and won his maiden on GF ground so I think todays run could be a big one.
at 18/1 this looks a seriously good ew bet
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Hampton
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Very competaive racing today at Newmarket & Cheltenham:
Newmarket:
Charlie Farnsbarns - 3.10 Gripsholm Castle - 3.45 Bounty Box - 4.20 Big Noise - 4.55 Wiliam Blake - 5.30
Cheltenham:
Elite Land - 2.20 Templer - 3.30 Parson's Legacy - 4.05 Skipper's Lad - 5.15
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lenahan
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| lenahan wrote: | | Death n Taxes wrote: | one bet for me today.
The 345 at Newmarket a load of fillies looking to get some black type before asking STS if he would like to pop round for a quick cuddle.
Stoute runs two with Leocorno Moore's choice and the likely favourate although it is difficult to split the pair and it wouldn't suprise me to see the second string win.
However the master of the filly Mr Cecil runs Gripholm Castle. This horse has run fewer times than the stoute pair and probably has more scope for improvement. Currently 5-1 on betfair and thats me kind of price. On the form I can't her out of the first 3 and should be an ew bet to nothing. |
agreed. looked between leocarno and Gripsholm Castle to me too with preference for the latter. Also think she looks an ew to nothing. |
I see skanky has weekend napped Flora Trevelyan 20/1 in this race. I had this one down as the other contender with leocarno and Gripolhme Castle. Well Bred and sure to improve. By 15llbs and whatever the other two do though ? not sure. Even so think skankys got a good bet here at 20/1 as thats a far bigger price than she should be. Wouldnt be surprised to see her win even though ultimetly think one of the other two at least should hold her off.i.e Grilshop. good bet though imo skanky
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Rowan
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For Sporting Life blog fans, Dave Ord is at Cheltenham today.
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westmeadhawk
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| lenahan wrote: | | Owl of Minerva wrote: | | david-uk wrote: | | Bushman in the Group 3 for me, been waiting a while for him, hope the ground is not too fast. |
I think Glass Harmonium will be hard to beat in this. Nothing wrong with its run last time on unfavourable weight terms and will strip fitter here and be more suited to the stiffer 9f tomorrow. 9/2 looks nice and suggests people think he ran moderately last time, which i disagree with. |
Fancy Rio in this. Serious G1 form at 3 over 8F. Off injured..awfull return first time up the other month but in ground far from ideal and was eased heavily when beaten. Ran well lto just going down to confront over the mile. Looked to be heading back to his true level there. Hoping the step up in trip is fine and cherry ripe to win after his last outing. Not sure if ill back at the price though. Hebridean, Charlie and Glass Harmoniam the dangers for me. Hebridean i quite fancy to go ok with fallon on board so that could be a good bet at 14/1. |
I think I am with Lenahan here, at least my gut is. I am worried about the Cambridgeshire winner but I will stick with RdP - best work late on lto.
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Gorg_George
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Well I can't be arsed to go over the cards today and not doing very well at the minute either so am nicking the 2 most selected horses off here in a double which appear to be Agente Parmigiano and Grimsholpe Castle took 9/2 and 12/1 singles and a double, here's for hoping 
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value seeker
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treble
Snap Tie 255
Barbizan 440
The Jigsaw Man 450
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geordie_racer
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| Rowan wrote: | | For Sporting Life blog fans, Dave Ord is at Cheltenham today. |
fyi thats not my son
meanwhile I think Ripplin Ring will et the better of snap tie today but it will be intersting to see how they compare with Sizing Europe's run earlier inthe week.
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Hampton
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| westmeadhawk wrote: | | lenahan wrote: | | Owl of Minerva wrote: | | david-uk wrote: | | Bushman in the Group 3 for me, been waiting a while for him, hope the ground is not too fast. |
I think Glass Harmonium will be hard to beat in this. Nothing wrong with its run last time on unfavourable weight terms and will strip fitter here and be more suited to the stiffer 9f tomorrow. 9/2 looks nice and suggests people think he ran moderately last time, which i disagree with. |
Fancy Rio in this. Serious G1 form at 3 over 8F. Off injured..awfull return first time up the other month but in ground far from ideal and was eased heavily when beaten. Ran well lto just going down to confront over the mile. Looked to be heading back to his true level there. Hoping the step up in trip is fine and cherry ripe to win after his last outing. Not sure if ill back at the price though. Hebridean, Charlie and Glass Harmoniam the dangers for me. Hebridean i quite fancy to go ok with fallon on board so that could be a good bet at 14/1. |
I think I am with Lenahan here, at least my gut is. I am worried about the Cambridgeshire winner but I will stick with RdP - best work late on lto. |
The Cambridgeshire winner would appear to have alot to do against better horses today & I can't see him winning.
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geordie_racer
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get david pipe into teh stewards room to explin hthat one.... look at his last three runs and then tlellme this horse has been running to its merits ....
what a con man, just like his dad
and before you ask...yes the pocket IS talking after getting the 100/30 favourite at 9/2 this morning
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accajacca
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purely from a layman's viewpoint, the handicap system here seems pretty punative and if i were an owner i would send my horse to a stable who could get him running off a fair mark and land a gamble, over a stable who pushed him all the way and ended up with him running as top weight every month without ever winning.
seems harsh to call him a conman when the system is designed in such a way as trainers who don't bend the handicap (i imagine) lose business.
happy to be educated otherwise though.
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Gorg_George
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Yet another winner for John Best there, you'll be eating lobsters and steaks for weeks Alan
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Owl of Minerva
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Did a pretty hefty double earlier:
Snap Tie 4/6, Jigsaw Man 11/8
Go on ST!
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Owl of Minerva
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Hmmm, got the job done but not all that impressive
Jumped much better in the second half of the contest I thought
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Gorg_George
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Nice one Owl, didn't win like tha ratings suggested he should but first past the post is first past the post. Hebridean 15/85 W/P here for me.
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Owl of Minerva
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Few quid on Russian Sage @ 42
GH in some combo's
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Rochesterlad
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| geordie_racer wrote: | get david pipe into teh stewards room to explin hthat one.... look at his last three runs and then tlellme this horse has been running to its merits ....
what a con man, just like his dad
and before you ask...yes the pocket IS talking after getting the 100/30 favourite at 9/2 this morning |
But whats new? Happens all the time! No point in moaning about it..If you dont like it then dont bet!
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geordie_racer
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| Rochesterlad wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | get david pipe into teh stewards room to explin hthat one.... look at his last three runs and then tlellme this horse has been running to its merits ....
what a con man, just like his dad
and before you ask...yes the pocket IS talking after getting the 100/30 favourite at 9/2 this morning |
But whats new? Happens all the time! No point in moaning about it..If you dont like it then dont bet! |
yes I know but when its someone like the Ransdens all hell breaks loose and when its Pipe its a case of"oh well thats the way it goes"
dont worry, im chilled now...
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westmeadhawk
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Rio de la Plata is turning into a bottomless pit! I think they should try him on a turning mile as he eems to run races with the choke out - the all-weather should suit 
I noticed Frankie was on the outside again (as with Judiciary) that's a terrible place on the Rowley Mile. I know you wouldn't want to get trapped but the outside is like doing double the work with none of the benefit.
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Rochesterlad
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| geordie_racer wrote: |
dont worry, im chilled now... |
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Gorg_George
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Money for both the front 2 in the market here. Should be a good race.
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Gorg_George
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Leocorno apparently in his coat, big negative according to WHRadio. Apparently the forum gamble also doesn't look too great.
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Owl of Minerva
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Plaisterer
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Owl of Minerva
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | Plaisterer |
 Would have won with a clear run
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geordie_racer
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wonder if Her Maj was on teh 12/1 touch at HQ?
Should help boost the civl list
I hear she has a lot of 10p accas on a Friday
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geordie_racer
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galant nuit in the 5.15 at Chelts is a good e/w bet.
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kickingkyle
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I had always waining at 6-1 
Wuality finisih by AP there!
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geordie_racer
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| kickingkyle wrote: | I had always waining at 6-1
Wuality finisih by AP there! |
serious, serious, seconditis today
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Cath_EVN
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Geordie wrote
[/quote]wonder if Her Maj was on teh 12/1 touch at HQ? [quote]
Not sure if HM was but i had my pound each way! i like backing second strings when 1st ones are strongly fancied. it has improved my day as up til then the fancied ones i backed were rubbish and the long shots i ignored came in!
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Rochesterlad
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Dont worry Cath,it took me ages to get the hang of the quote funtion!
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Cath_EVN
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yes how do you do it? It worked the first time i posted on here but i don't know what i did!!
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Rochesterlad
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| Cath_EVN wrote: | | yes how do you do it? It worked the first time i posted on here but i don't know what i did!! |
If you want to highlight the whole post just click on the quote box on the right handside...then write your post underneath.
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kickingkyle
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Think i cursed you Tony
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Cath_EVN
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| Rochesterlad wrote: | | Cath_EVN wrote: | | yes how do you do it? It worked the first time i posted on here but i don't know what i did!! |
If you want to highlight the whole post just click on the quote box on the right handside...then write your post underneath. |
Ahaa it worked, thank you!
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Rochesterlad
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| Cath_EVN wrote: | | Rochesterlad wrote: | | Cath_EVN wrote: | | yes how do you do it? It worked the first time i posted on here but i don't know what i did!! |
If you want to highlight the whole post just click on the quote box on the right handside...then write your post underneath. |
Ahaa it worked, thank you! |
No worries!!
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | treble
Snap Tie 255
Barbizan 440
The Jigsaw Man 450 |
Waiting for my treble with the Jigsaw man ,I will be in pieces if this goes down 
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Owl of Minerva
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| value seeker wrote: | | value seeker wrote: | treble
Snap Tie 255
Barbizan 440
The Jigsaw Man 450 |
Waiting for my treble with the Jigsaw man ,I will be in pieces if this goes down |
Same here. I have a Snap Tie-Jigsaw Man double and a Snap Tie-Medicinal Compound-Jigsaw Man treble going onto him. Have laid Jigsaw Man @ 1.8 to ensure a profit as I am a bit over exposed on him
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Gorg_George
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Hevelius @ 9/2 looks a tasty price.
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theBear
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Come on Jiggy!
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Owl of Minerva
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Gave us a bit of a fright there!!!!
Cheers Bear  and Siclegg
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theBear
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | Gave us a bit of a fright there!!!!
Cheers Bear and Siclegg |
I lost coverage half way through the race. Didnt sound too convincing, but a nice start anyway
Have just text the trainer with my congratulations so will see what she says!
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Gorg_George
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All you backers owe AP an extra Christms Card this year, yet another McCoy drive that only he can do.
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Owl of Minerva
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| Gorg_George wrote: | | All you backers owe AP an extra Christms Card this year, yet another McCoy drive that only he can do. |
Yes but if he'd driven a bit sooner then the 2nd horse would never have got so close
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dandy man
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great tipping siclegg and bear,magic 
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Owl of Minerva
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Glass Harmonium getting beat after trading at 1.02 has cost me about a grand. Shouldn't be greedy as still a good day but hard not to
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newyorktony
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it didnt just lose in was last by a long way but thats racing watch out if they run him soon on the sand
| kickingkyle wrote: | | Think i cursed you Tony |
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | | value seeker wrote: | treble
Snap Tie 255
Barbizan 440
The Jigsaw Man 450 |
Waiting for my treble with the Jigsaw man ,I will be in pieces if this goes down |
get in the box jigsaw,final piece of the treble completed 
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Keepitreal
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Good skills Value Seeker!
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Rochesterlad
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Six Wives looks a big price in the next at Wolverhampton
Hopefully it will smash out and try and hang on.
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kickingkyle
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| newyorktony wrote: | it didnt just lose in was last by a long way but thats racing watch out if they run him soon on the sand
| kickingkyle wrote: | | Think i cursed you Tony |
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Looked like it went lame, was 22l behind the horse in front!
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Rochesterlad
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| Rochesterlad wrote: | Six Wives looks a big price in the next at Wolverhampton
Hopefully it will smash out and try and hang on. |
Arrgg second at 11/1
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Rochesterlad
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| value seeker wrote: | | value seeker wrote: | | value seeker wrote: | treble
Snap Tie 255
Barbizan 440
The Jigsaw Man 450 |
Waiting for my treble with the Jigsaw man ,I will be in pieces if this goes down |
get in the box jigsaw,final piece of the treble completed |
Well played VS
Great drive from McCoy to get The Jigsaw Man home.
Still the best Jump Jockey on the planet IMHO
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Rowan
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| geordie_racer wrote: | get david pipe into teh stewards room to explin hthat one.... look at his last three runs and then tlellme this horse has been running to its merits ....
what a con man, just like his dad
and before you ask...yes the pocket IS talking after getting the 100/30 favourite at 9/2 this morning |
Heh.. Jenny made him her pick of the paddock and was a very happy lady when I last saw her!
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Rowan
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | Hmmm, got the job done but not all that impressive
Jumped much better in the second half of the contest I thought |
A friend was standing near connections and reported them to be very disappointed - he was expected to be miles clear of his stablemate.
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Gorg_George
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Ithinkbest 12/1? Yes please.
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Rochesterlad
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| Gorg_George wrote: | | Ithinkbest 12/1? Yes please. |
Good luck
Arabian Spirit is my pick
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Rochesterlad
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| Rochesterlad wrote: | | Gorg_George wrote: | | Ithinkbest 12/1? Yes please. |
Good luck
Arabian Spirit is my pick |
Great shout GG!!!
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Gorg_George
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Was one of only really 2 horses in top form, had to be done at the price, cheers Roch, recouped the days losses and then a few pence more.
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Rochesterlad
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| Gorg_George wrote: | | Was one of only really 2 horses in top form, had to be done at the price, cheers Roch, recouped the days losses and then a few pence more. |
Well played.
I had two winners in a small stakes lucky 15 (20-1, 9-1) one more would of set me up for a nice weekend! 
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lochsong
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| theBear wrote: | Guys and gals,
Stable very confident about The Jigsaw Man in the last at Cheltenham. He's schooled brilliantly and is fit as a flea.
Phillip Hobbs had one entered at the 5 day stage who may have troubled TJM but wasn't declared so should be pretty straight forward |
Thanks Bear.
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jennywales
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| geordie_racer wrote: | | Rochesterlad wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | get david pipe into teh stewards room to explin hthat one.... look at his last three runs and then tlellme this horse has been running to its merits ....
what a con man, just like his dad
and before you ask...yes the pocket IS talking after getting the 100/30 favourite at 9/2 this morning |
But whats new? Happens all the time! No point in moaning about it..If you dont like it then dont bet! |
yes I know but when its someone like the Ransdens all hell breaks loose and when its Pipe its a case of"oh well thats the way it goes"
dont worry, im chilled now... |
Just to unchill you, Geordie. I was at Cheltenham and I assume you are talking about Mutual Friend, the 23/1 winner from the Pipe stable which I backed. The reason I backed him was that he stood out in the paddock as the fittest and best prepared horse of the lot (if we are talking about the same race). I have a forum member as witness that I said this, and also that I would back him, so I'm not aftertiming.
Might you not do Pipe the courtesy of assuming that in this case it was a good training performance? I don't recall people calling him a con-man after he got Well Chief back in a good enough state to come second to Master Minded in the Queen Mum....
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Rochesterlad
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| jennywales wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | | Rochesterlad wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | get david pipe into teh stewards room to explin hthat one.... look at his last three runs and then tlellme this horse has been running to its merits ....
what a con man, just like his dad
and before you ask...yes the pocket IS talking after getting the 100/30 favourite at 9/2 this morning |
But whats new? Happens all the time! No point in moaning about it..If you dont like it then dont bet! |
yes I know but when its someone like the Ransdens all hell breaks loose and when its Pipe its a case of"oh well thats the way it goes"
dont worry, im chilled now... |
Just to unchill you, Geordie. I was at Cheltenham and I assume you are talking about Mutual Friend, the 23/1 winner from the Pipe stable which I backed. The reason I backed him was that he stood out in the paddock as the fittest and best prepared horse of the lot (if we are talking about the same race). I have a forum member as witness that I said this, and also that I would back him, so I'm not aftertiming.
Might you not do Pipe the courtesy of assuming that in this case it was a good training performance? I don't recall people calling him a con-man after he got Well Chief back in a good enough state to come second to Master Minded in the Queen Mum.... |
Won well...Bit of a worrying moment when he got quite badly squeezed up on the rail heading out on the final circuit though.
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jennywales
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He looked terrific in the paddock and I couldn't see anything to touch him in terms of fitness. Didn't really see the incident you mentioned because watching from the stands you don't get the benefit of the TV close-ups - the big screen is OK but I prefer to watch through bins or with bare eyes; I don't go racing to watch the TV (in exceptional circumstances I will, but generally not!)
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Rochesterlad
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Yet to visit Cheltenham..Must try and make it sometime this season!
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