Owl of Minerva
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Great Modern FilmsFilms only tend to get labelled as great or legendary when they become really 'old' and have stood the test of time, but which modern films do forumites think will/should be remembered as great in the decades to come?
By modern, I guess I mean the last 20 years or so
Clearly Geordie will say 'they don't make 'em like they used to' and that all films made after 1970 are rubbish, but what do other forumites think? 
A few that I think are really great modern films
Mulholland Drive
Memento
The Assasination of Jesses James
And a few other top contenders that I think will likely be popular choices:
Seven
Usual Suspects
Shawshank Redemption
Heat
There Will Be Blood
American Beauty
Blue Velvet (bit older than 20 years admittedly)
Gladiator
Any more?
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lochsong
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The Thomas Crown Affair.
Watched it on Monday.
Rene Russo - va va vooooom
edit - agree with alot of the above especially Shawshank
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accajacca
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Seven
Usual Suspects
Shawshank Redemption
American Beauty
Fight Club
Blood Diamond
American History X
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johnnio
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I'd definitely go for:
Mulholland Drive
Blue Velvet
Inland Empire
Memento
Betty Blue
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BurntFingers
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Plenty mentioned so far that definately will be labelled 'Great'.
A few that I think should be are ...
No Country For Old Men
Matchstick Men
The Prestige
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YAIYAM
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The Departed
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Gorg_George
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Agree with The Prestige, that film is BRILLIANT.
The Matrix is a no brainer top 10 of all time for me.
Other ones, some already mentioned.
Shawshank
Green Mile
Finding Nemo
Aladdin
S7ven
Fear And Loathing
Lock Stock
Usual Suspects
Aliens
Indiana Jones
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Tagalie
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I would suggest
Donnie Darko
Hero
And another vote for Mulholland Drive and Memento
Most consistently top class directors would be Ang Lee, Lynch and prob Almodovar.
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geordie_racer
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sorry to dissapoint you owl,
personally i think you can say almost anything starring tom hanks as he has made some exceptional films; green mile is a personal favourite but his performance in Phialdelphia was awesome as was forest gump /saving private ryan
I used to like some of the Kevin Costner movies, field of dreams was good, I fell out with himover robin hood but that was still enjoyable
Will Smith played Ali well, I loved enemy of the people.
Casino Royale is a film I can watch more than once, naked gun 2 1/2 was within 20 years ago, so was scent of a woman which i think was exceptional.
my cousin vinny; sleepless in seattle, schindlers list, cool runnings, mrs. doubtfire, good will hunting, good morning vietnam, pulp fiction, bridges of madison county, muppet treasure island (the only portrayal of blind pew as a blind man, for one thing), men in black as good as it gets, conair, toy story and toy story 2, something about mary, erin brokovich, oh brother where art thou, a beautiful mind and cinderella man (great performances from russel crowe
can i stop there?
of couse none of them match WC Fields in te bank Dick, but there you go
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BurntFingers
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Steven Soderbergh's Traffic is also worthy to grace this thread.
Some outstanding performances in that ....
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Owl of Minerva
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| BurntFingers wrote: | Steven Soderbergh's Traffic is also worthy to grace this thread.
Some outstanding performances in that .... |
Yes good one
Agree on Donnie Darko too
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YAIYAM
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I would also go along with Hero never get tired of watching It
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Flipando
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Titanic
Leon
Good Will Hunting
Mystic River
Pulp Fiction
Saving Private Ryan
Schindler's List
Spirited Away
The Aviator
The Departed
Up
Rec
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theGoingStick
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To be fair if I were to compile a list of my top 100 films I don't think a very high percentage of them would be from the last 20 years.
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geordie_racer
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| Gorg_George wrote: |
Indiana Jones |
not from the last 20 years though.... you'll be getting the owl of minerva "old person" yellow card soon
raiders was 1981, temple of doom 84 last crusade 89 and you cant think they werent the best?
its amazing how quickly time goes because i checked that out earlier to see if they were in the timescale.
ive probably named another half dozen that aren't! 
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Gorg_George
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I didn't realise they were so old. I certainly can't have the new one it was such tripe. Still, a great set of films. Saving Private Ryan, hell yes. Brilliant.
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millsy
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Plenty good ones named already, would add
Reservoir Dogs
Silence of the Lambs
The Big Lebowski
Edward Scissorhands
Wayne's World
True Romance
City of God
Life is Beautiful
Terminator 2
LA Confidential
The Pianist
If you stretch it to 21 years then Die Hard and Rain Man too!
So many great films in the last couple of decades, plenty hold their own with the oldies if you ask me.
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Owl of Minerva
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LA Confidential
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Indeed
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FallonFacta
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300
Cloverfield
Last King of Scotland
Blair Witch
I wanto say Atonement but you lot might laugh!
My favourites from the ones mentioned so far - LA Confidential and Shawshank
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theGoingStick
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | Cloverfield |
That must be a joke 
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FallonFacta
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | Cloverfield |
That must be a joke |
Loved it - something different - shame about the monster so maybe not a classic but I thought it was shot brilliantly and I didn't know what was going to happen. I can't say that about many films
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Flipando
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| theGoingStick wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | Cloverfield |
That must be a joke |
Cloverfield was a joke.
Agree with L.A. Confidential.
Also gonna throw Babe into the mix.
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dandy man
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goodfellas
superbad(not one of the greatest but a great comedy)
documentary:baraka(watched this again recently on blu-ray on big tv,wow)
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FallonFacta
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| millsy wrote: | Reservoir Dogs
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I missed that one from my list  probably the one I saw at the cinema most - even more than Twilight (not nominated but I loved it!)
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johnnio
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| FallonFacta wrote: | 300
Blair Witch
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Oh dear, thought the scariest part of that film was when the snot run down the girls nose.
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FallonFacta
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| johnnio wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | 300
Blair Witch
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Oh dear, thought the scariest part of that film was when the snot run down the girls nose. |
So no one likes the films I like  Big shock!
Would anyone like to mock Moulin Rouge and Strictly Balllroom while you're at it
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Binge
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Peter Jackson's Lord Of The Rings trilogy will stand the test of time and take their place in the 'Great films of modern times' envelope.
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theGoingStick
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | So no one likes the films I like Big shock! |
I like 300! I watched Cloverfield the other night for the first time and thought it was awful, maybe you should re-watch it!
| FallonFacta wrote: | | Would anyone like to mock Moulin Rouge and Strictly Balllroom while you're at it |
Ewan McGregor can't sing and Strictly Balllroom's a chick flick, I thank you
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Gorg_George
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Lord Of The Rings were crap films.
Cloverfield was brilliant, I have a lot of time for J.J.Abrams, he's doing The Dark Tower, really looking forward to it.
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lochsong
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Bram Stoker's DRACULA.
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FallonFacta
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| Gorg_George wrote: | | Cloverfield was brilliant, I have a lot of time for J.J.Abrams, he's doing The Dark Tower, really looking forward to it. |
I didn't know that - intertesting!! I read one maybe two of the books ages ago - but didn't get into them properly. Seeing it on film make make the books easier to deal with!
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lochsong
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| Gorg_George wrote: | Lord Of The Rings were crap films.
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Too much GOOD vs EVIL for you to take?
You need to loosen up a bit GG. Ever heard of escapism? 
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millsy
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| lochsong wrote: | | Bram Stoker's DRACULA. |
Decent movie, but preferred Interview with the Vampire myself
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lochsong
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | Gorg_George wrote: | | Cloverfield was brilliant, I have a lot of time for J.J.Abrams, he's doing The Dark Tower, really looking forward to it. |
I didn't know that - intertesting!! I read one maybe two of the books ages ago - but didn't get into them properly. Seeing it on film make make the books easier to deal with! |
Is that Stephen King's trilogy about a black gunslinger in an alternate world with wizards and such?
I enjoyed those too. Big fan of King's mito early stuff.
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FallonFacta
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| lochsong wrote: | | Bram Stoker's DRACULA. |
 Loved this film! I saw it in Odeon Leicester Square - first time I'd been in a huge cinema with such a good sound system. There was red velvet everywhere cos they'd just had the premiere. I remember the bit when the three "lady" vamps showed up and I turned round thinking someone had brought a crying baby into the pictures but it was them with lunch
Gary Oldman and Winona Ryder were amazing 
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FallonFacta
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| millsy wrote: | | lochsong wrote: | | Bram Stoker's DRACULA. |
Decent movie, but preferred Interview with the Vampire myself |
Have you read the books? My favourites for so long!!
Was really worried Tom Cruise couldn't be Lestat but he was better than I thought he be - loved the last shot of him and the car
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FallonFacta
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| lochsong wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | Gorg_George wrote: | | Cloverfield was brilliant, I have a lot of time for J.J.Abrams, he's doing The Dark Tower, really looking forward to it. |
I didn't know that - intertesting!! I read one maybe two of the books ages ago - but didn't get into them properly. Seeing it on film make make the books easier to deal with! |
Is that Stephen King's trilogy about a black gunslinger in an alternate world with wizards and such?
I enjoyed those too. Big fan of King's mito early stuff. |
That's it
I wonder if they'll never be able to do The Stand properly - might not dare after Swine Flu - and it's too much of a story for a film. The mini-seris wasn't amazing - may be a ten part drama!
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millsy
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| FallonFacta wrote: | | millsy wrote: | | lochsong wrote: | | Bram Stoker's DRACULA. |
Decent movie, but preferred Interview with the Vampire myself |
Have you read the books? My favourites for so long!!
Was really worried Tom Cruise couldn't be Lestat but he was better than I thought he be - loved the last shot of him and the car |
I've not - worth a read then? Reading American Psycho at the mo - appropriate for this thread!
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FallonFacta
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| millsy wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | millsy wrote: | | lochsong wrote: | | Bram Stoker's DRACULA. |
Decent movie, but preferred Interview with the Vampire myself |
Have you read the books? My favourites for so long!!
Was really worried Tom Cruise couldn't be Lestat but he was better than I thought he be - loved the last shot of him and the car |
I've not - worth a read then? Reading American Psycho at the mo - appropriate for this thread! |
Excellent books - Anne Rice is amazing! She changes Lestat a bit in the next few books - I think she fell for him a bit Towards the end of the Vampire Chronicles maybe she runs out of stories but the first 4 books are spot on!
I struggled with The Witching Hour at first but it's a great story too - The Mummy and Belinda are favourites. Just looked at my shelves - these are the most battered books - I've dragged them around for more than 15 years.
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Gorg_George
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| lochsong wrote: | | FallonFacta wrote: | | Gorg_George wrote: | | Cloverfield was brilliant, I have a lot of time for J.J.Abrams, he's doing The Dark Tower, really looking forward to it. |
I didn't know that - intertesting!! I read one maybe two of the books ages ago - but didn't get into them properly. Seeing it on film make make the books easier to deal with! |
Is that Stephen King's trilogy about a black gunslinger in an alternate world with wizards and such?
I enjoyed those too. Big fan of King's mito early stuff. |
It's not a trilogy It's 7 books. There the best fantasy books I've ever read. Starts with The Gunslinger and ends with The Dark Tower. Over 4000 pages in total, a beautifuly crafted fantasy epic.
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Gorg_George
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| lochsong wrote: | | Gorg_George wrote: | Lord Of The Rings were crap films.
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Too much GOOD vs EVIL for you to take?
You need to loosen up a bit GG. Ever heard of escapism? |
I love fantasy films but as a huge fan of J.R.R Tolkeins books I found these films very offensive to the material.
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geordie_racer
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personally i have never got the star wars type stuff, nr the tolkein stuff and its various offspring
and dont get me started on h potter
honourable mention for an overlooked classic.
the gangs of new york
also
my left foot
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dandy man
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braveheart
in the name of the father
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Tagalie
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Whether or not fantasy action is your cup of tea, the LOTR films certainly set the standard for scale of imagination, commitment and attention to detail (costumes especially). As a massive geeky fan of the book, I thought it was a mostly excellent adaptation (you cannot just film every word that is on every page, as some readers seem to think- it would be utterly unwatchable).
On that subject, I think Sense & Sensibility should also be up there as the gold standard for literary adaptation. To take a much loved classic, boldly cut out some characters, write up others and complete the story in 2 hours and 20 mins is a skill richly deserving of Emma Thompson's Oscar.
I don't think Daniel Day-Lewis has ever been in a film that's anything less than good so he should get a mention. Other ones I've thought of are Unforgiven and Requiem For A Dream.
I genuinely had no idea people liked Coppola's ham fisted mangling of Dracula- I thought the done thing was to quietly ignore it, along with all the other rubbish embarrassing his CV since the 70s?
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accajacca
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can't believe that i forgot it, and can't believe that nobody else has mentioned it. completely unbelievable.
crash
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BurntFingers
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Which Crash though, AJ?
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accajacca
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| BurntFingers wrote: | | Which Crash though, AJ? |
2004. absolute brilliance.
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BurntFingers
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Agreed. The scene where Matt Dillon rescue's the woman he'd previously violated is pretty powerful.
The other 'Crash' is alright, too, if not a little perverted ...
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alansouthcoast
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The Last King Of Scotland with Forrest Whitaker as Idi Amin. Superb depiction and Whitaker excelled as Amin. Training Day is another film which I could watch again and again.
I get GG`s point about books and films. Normally a film hardly lives up to the book. Maybe thats due to us using our own interpretation and not the Directors/Screenwriters.
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Papa 3
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Leon with Jean Reno and Gary Oldman. 
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johnnio
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| alansouthcoast wrote: | The Last King Of Scotland with Forrest Whitaker as Idi Amin. Superb depiction and Whitaker excelled as Amin. Training Day is another film which I could watch again and again.
I get GG`s point about books and films. Normally a film hardly lives up to the book. Maybe thats due to us using our own interpretation and not the Directors/Screenwriters. |
I agree, there is an exception though: The Unbearable Lightness of Being was a marvellous film, the book was a snorefest, much more of a philosophy lecture with the story used as examples. A rarity really.
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gromero
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drool, what a film!
and you can't knock cloverfield imo, epic sci fi drama with a crazy but interesting style. climbing up the the falling building was amazing.
better than 99% of the dross that gets released
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Owl of Minerva
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| alansouthcoast wrote: | | Training Day is another film which I could watch again and again. |
Really disliked Training Day - thought it was very basic. "Hey look at me I'm a man and I'm cool and hard and don't take no shit of no one"
Also thought Crash was a bit cringey
I perferred the old Crash film - by no means 'great' though
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Machiavellian
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I liked Crash a bit but thought it was a bit preachy.
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Owl of Minerva
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| Tagalie wrote: |
Donnie Darko
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Just stuck this on. Woop
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alansouthcoast
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | alansouthcoast wrote: | | Training Day is another film which I could watch again and again. |
Really disliked Training Day - thought it was very basic. "Hey look at me I'm a man and I'm cool and hard and don't take no shit of no one"
Also thought Crash was a bit cringey
I perferred the old Crash film - by no means 'great' though |
I havent seen Crash. The thing I loved about Training Day was the twists in the plot. Right from the start nothing was as it seemed.
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