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I want to feel out the board's experience's as regards their encounters with this topic.
So I'll start
I'm a white man (of poor origins) that was born and grew up in a country that was (and still is) 95% black. In essence I was apart of an ethnic minority.
That puts me in a unique position in terms of what is the race issue raging around your green and pleasant land today.
When I was in my country, there were places that I daren't go because of the colour of my skin. At best I would be robbed - at worst I would be shot or knifed.
I have been robbed and attacked with a machete.
Please put up your incidences of prejudice.
Machiavellian
I was reading some Edmund Burke earlier
lochsong
and that's relevant because...? (I'm ignorant)
geordie_racer
lochsong wrote:
and that's relevant because...? (I'm ignorant)
had to hide his Catholicism to avoid prejudice
Machiavellian
geordie_racer wrote:
lochsong wrote:
and that's relevant because...? (I'm ignorant)
had to hide his Catholicism to avoid prejudice
Close but no cigar. Don't have time to explain at the moment, gotta get the train to Sheffield (BLUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEBIRDS)
I'll offer some words of explanation and bar room philosophy on my return, should a wiser mind than myself not step in to the breach.
Gorg_George
I got racially assaulted by a bunch of Indian lads once, messed me up pretty bad. Don't hold no racial grudges or anything though, IF I ever stumbled across one of the lads then that'd be different, white, black, indian, it makes no difference one way or the other regardless of the situation.
geordie_racer
i am fortunate; born into a family which loved me, stable home, always food on the table and clean clothes to wear, parents sacrificed a lot for my benefit and both were "over achievers" in terms of their family backgrounds.
White, perceived as middle class ,male, I have never been the victim of any prejudice as far as I know.
As for other members of my family and frineds that is different; personal tragedies have left people exposed to abuse about their (eg) total lack of hair, physical disability, weight and learning problems /mental condition.
Perhaps that is why I find any so-called humour predicated on a person's condition, i.e. based on something they can't help, so utterly unacceptable.
Making a joke about someone's conduct or behaviour (e.g. pomposity - Basil Fawlty) or observational humour is different, as is humour where the joke maker is in fact the victim (everything from Laurel and Hardy, through Alf Garnett to The Office and Peter Kay - as Brian Potter he uses the disability as a vehicle for humour, he does not make fun of the disabled).
To make fun of a group of people based on a condition (colour, disability,) is in my view, simply unacceptable. It is cheap and easy and serves to reinforce prejucdices and stereotypes. To defend it by the phrase "it was a joke" is not acceptable to me.
So I have never suffered prejudice but close frineds and family members have. I find it utterly repugnant. It is, frankly, the thing that gets me most annoyed in the world.
Papa 3
Quote:
people exposed to abuse about their (eg) total lack of hair, physical disability, weight and learning problems /mental condition.
This sort of thing is done on late afternoon TV by the pot calling the kettle black presenter - Anne Robinson, on The Weakest Link, her remarks are the sort of thing you may expect in a kids playground by bullies. All this from a ginger with added and changed parts who needs the telly prompter to try and create some wit, well it sounds like that.
ngreggors
Papa 3 wrote:
Quote:
people exposed to abuse about their (eg) total lack of hair, physical disability, weight and learning problems /mental condition.
This sort of thing is done on late afternoon TV by the pot calling the kettle black presenter - Anne Robinson, on The Weakest Link, her remarks are the sort of thing you may expect in a kids playground by bullies. All this from a ginger with added and changed parts who needs the telly prompter to try and create some wit, well it sounds like that.
Not really the same thing is it?
If you want to go on this programme you know exactly what to expect.
Prejudice on the other hand goes way deeper than a few adverse words from a TV hostess.
geordie_racer
ngreggors wrote:
If you want to go on this programme you know exactly what to expect.
Prejudice on the other hand goes way deeper than a few adverse words from a TV hostess.
correct because the contestants are seeking their 15 minutes of fame and know what to expect; ignorance and abuse from a know-nothing presenter.
Volenti non fit injuria as the lawyers say (don't moan about it if you have put yourself up for it, in other words)
awaywardlad
Papa 3 wrote:
Quote:
people exposed to abuse about their (eg) total lack of hair, physical disability, weight and learning problems /mental condition.
This sort of thing is done on late afternoon TV by the pot calling the kettle black presenter - Anne Robinson, on The Weakest Link, her remarks are the sort of thing you may expect in a kids playground by bullies. All this from a ginger with added and changed parts who needs the telly prompter to try and create some wit, well it sounds like that.
I think you are overkind to her Papa 3 .Sadly as my children like this programme I am sometimes subjected to this excuse for a presenter who I find neither amusing nor tasteful and the worst of it is the victims have no chance to reply to her caustic c**p.
MT VESSELS
geordie_racer wrote:
To make fun of a group of people based on a condition (colour, disability,) is in my view, simply unacceptable. It is cheap and easy and serves to reinforce prejucdices and stereotypes. To defend it by the phrase "it was a joke" is not acceptable to me.
So I have never suffered prejudice but close frineds and family members have. I find it utterly repugnant. It is, frankly, the thing that gets me most annoyed in the world.
Unless when you are talking about Scousers
MT jnr
geordie_racer
MT VESSELS wrote:
geordie_racer wrote:
To make fun of a group of people based on a condition (colour, disability,) is in my view, simply unacceptable. It is cheap and easy and serves to reinforce prejucdices and stereotypes. To defend it by the phrase "it was a joke" is not acceptable to me.
So I have never suffered prejudice but close frineds and family members have. I find it utterly repugnant. It is, frankly, the thing that gets me most annoyed in the world.
Unless when you are talking about Scousers
MT jnr
stop flaming
MT VESSELS
geordie_racer wrote:
MT VESSELS wrote:
geordie_racer wrote:
To make fun of a group of people based on a condition (colour, disability,) is in my view, simply unacceptable. It is cheap and easy and serves to reinforce prejucdices and stereotypes. To defend it by the phrase "it was a joke" is not acceptable to me.
So I have never suffered prejudice but close frineds and family members have. I find it utterly repugnant. It is, frankly, the thing that gets me most annoyed in the world.
Unless when you are talking about Scousers
MT jnr
stop flaming
you caught me
geordie_racer
MT VESSELS wrote:
geordie_racer wrote:
MT VESSELS wrote:
geordie_racer wrote:
To make fun of a group of people based on a condition (colour, disability,) is in my view, simply unacceptable. It is cheap and easy and serves to reinforce prejucdices and stereotypes. To defend it by the phrase "it was a joke" is not acceptable to me.
So I have never suffered prejudice but close frineds and family members have. I find it utterly repugnant. It is, frankly, the thing that gets me most annoyed in the world.
you caught me