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lenahan

Saturday Racing 31/10/09

Im supposed to be keeping my hands in my pockets in preparation for the Breeders meet and the Paddy Power weekend at Cheltenham but i cant help but look at the cards and then start seeing what i think are good bets.

At Newmarket on the flat im being drawn to Infiraad 6/1 in the 205pm. On the upgrade and could be about to zoom past this opposition. Also like Prince Of Dance 4/1 in the 235pm for similar reasons and again in the 345pm for the same kind of thinking i quite like the look of Laaheb 5/1.

Some good quality jumps racing about today. Ascot is where you look for the Henderson runners and he only appears to have two on display. Both with ApMcoy on board as the stable jockey has gone to weatherby to ride my petra. Any sort of tip there ? Personally id play it safe and just look at the Mcoy rides at ascot for Henderson as they are a powerfull combo when teaming up at a track henderson excells at. French Opera evens should prevail imo in the 120pm but i wouldnt be sure about Your The Top evens in the 225pm as William Hogerth 2/1 looks very smart and came a nk 2nd to the highly thought of The jigsaw man lto. He would be the one to my mind for this. You would think both of those would do for the exacta.
There is 3 im drawn to in the 150pm the big handicap chase. Seven is my number 5/1 who looks to have plenty of scope but whom may not get home at this 3 mile trip. Two that also appeal are shining gale 8/1 and gone to lunch 12/1.


Not sure if im having much in the way of bets yet but the above are what ive homed in on if i do have a play. Boards thoughts on any of the above and the days racing ?

Godolphin are on fire but im backing on the streak coming to an end today with my selections if i do play.

place your bets please.
Rowan

Re: Saturday Racing 31/10/09

lenahan wrote:


Some good quality jumps racing about today. Ascot is where you look for the Henderson runners and he only appears to have two on display.


Three.

You've missed Shouldhavehadthat in the United House.
newyorktony

michael stoutes safina is expected to go very close in the 2nd race at newmarket, she is well bred and works like a good one at home, this is from the same source as tabassum.  i have gone in at 3-1
FallonFacta

newyorktony wrote:
michael stoutes safina is expected to go very close in the 2nd race at newmarket, she is well bred and works like a good one at home, this is from the same source as tabassum.  i have gone in at 3-1

I've got Safina and Revered in a double - I could do with a good weekend after last weekend

Anyone know why Ryan Moore's not riding?  Has he got a ban?  I read he was flying on Sunday so he's free today - Is it a bad sign that he's not riding these two  

Cath_EVN

Anyone know why Ryan Moore's not riding?  Has he got a ban?  I read he was flying on Sunday so he's free today - Is it a bad sign that he's not riding these two  

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He's supsended today and tomorrow
FallonFacta

Cath_EVN wrote:
He's supsended today and tomorrow

Thank Cath     Revered did Ok without him
newyorktony

sorry all   safina needed it alittle abit will come on alot
BurntFingers

Think it's fair to say that Cockney Trucker needs a heck of a lot more schooling
alfieatkins

going with shining gale in this
FallonFacta

My usual yankee on Ruby - but Shining Gale too in this....
theGoingStick

I can see Nikos Extra being set up for a big handicap somewhere along the line.
FallonFacta

From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!
FallonFacta

 Loved the Weetabix advert!
newyorktony

im having a nightmare today  
lochsong

FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Handling not passing.

That's how rumours get started.  
FallonFacta

lochsong wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Handling not passing.

That's how rumours get started.  

My apologies to him!!  
Cath_EVN

Barry should have gone to Spec savers!  cruising  
theGoingStick

Tut tut Barry, he should have known better there.
lochsong

Any significant laying patterns on BF.....
YAIYAM

Perhaps he just wanted a holiday
lochsong

I suspect the owners may give him one.  
theGoingStick

Barry got 12 days holidays for that, very lucky.
Machiavellian

FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent
lochsong

Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent


Or wish you hadn't hired Fallon's.....
theGoingStick

Paul Carberry failed a breath test so he couldn't ride today  
lochsong

Jeez

The jockey fraternity aren't covering themselves in glory today are they?

Except for Frankie, of course...

*ducks*
FallonFacta

Gone for Church Island just because I hate people who boo jockeys!
lochsong

The first 3 in my Scoop6 have sunk like lead ballons.

Tammy to end the rot.

Already got my stake back for a free bet.
theGoingStick

Fair Along tbp in this one for me.
lochsong

Tagalie will be creaming herself if she watched that.

She loves little Fair Along.

Machiavellian

 
YAIYAM

Some of you may have noticed, I know some have from the pm's I have recieved that Sutton Veny runs tonight in the 7:20 @ wolves.

The basic Jist of it is that the trainer feels he has never had her better and as long as she has no Ill effects from the kick back of her first run on the allweather(drawn wide) she is good enough to win this race quite comfortably and he would be extremely disappointed If she could not at least place even If Buick had to take her wide to avoid the kick back.

What I am a bit concerned with at the moment is that you have the dead eight so I have been a bit reluctant to place an each way bet until nearer the off, however I have been trying to get the 12/1 best price with a few bookies without to much success. Was knocked back by Stan James and was told £14.39 E/W was the max I am allowed, Boylesports were a bit more accomadating but not much.
What I do not understand is Stan James will put a max on for one person but will still offer the 12/1 to others, my question to them was what difference does it make who's money it is and surely If they do not want to take more at 12's they should lower the price.

Anyway it looks like I will have to take my chance on the place part with Betfair later on.
lochsong

I've been watching the BF odds for SV and there hasn't been much liquidity.

I'll go check again.
YAIYAM

lochsong wrote:
I've been watching the BF odds for SV and there hasn't been much liquidity.

I'll go check again.


There would not be much on a race like that anyway Lochsong
lochsong

YAIYAM wrote:

What I do not understand is Stan James will put a max on for one person but will still offer the 12/1 to others, my question to them was what difference does it make who's money it is and surely If they do not want to take more at 12's they should lower the price.


Do they know you are a part owner?

Still, mug punters probably wouldn't put on more than a fiver.

theGoingStick

Thanks for the info YY, I'll be backing her later on when the market forms.
YAIYAM

lochsong wrote:
YAIYAM wrote:

What I do not understand is Stan James will put a max on for one person but will still offer the 12/1 to others, my question to them was what difference does it make who's money it is and surely If they do not want to take more at 12's they should lower the price.


Do they know you are a part owner?

Still, mug punters probably wouldn't put on more than a fiver.



I wouldn't have thought so, It really comes down to how you have done betting wise with them.
Also on another forum In the tipping leagues where Stan James are the sponsors they offer prizes for top place in the divisions and I have won those leagues a couple of times so I doubt that helps.
A couple of months ago(see betting topic) on a longer priced horse I was knocked back and told a few quid eachway was the max I could have  
Rowan

Why do people keep calling Poker de Sivola "the best novice in the country"? Apart from anything, if he was that good, wouldn't he have won a race last season?
Rowan

Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent


According to RP his agent didn't even know he was in Cyprus, which considering he was meant to be riding today is a bit.. worrying!
shamardal84

YAIYAM wrote:
Some of you may have noticed, I know some have from the pm's I have recieved that Sutton Veny runs tonight in the 7:20 @ wolves.

The basic Jist of it is that the trainer feels he has never had her better and as long as she has no Ill effects from the kick back of her first run on the allweather(drawn wide) she is good enough to win this race quite comfortably and he would be extremely disappointed If she could not at least place even If Buick had to take her wide to avoid the kick back.

What I am a bit concerned with at the moment is that you have the dead eight so I have been a bit reluctant to place an each way bet until nearer the off, however I have been trying to get the 12/1 best price with a few bookies without to much success. Was knocked back by Stan James and was told £14.39 E/W was the max I am allowed, Boylesports were a bit more accomadating but not much.
What I do not understand is Stan James will put a max on for one person but will still offer the 12/1 to others, my question to them was what difference does it make who's money it is and surely If they do not want to take more at 12's they should lower the price.

Anyway it looks like I will have to take my chance on the place part with Betfair later on.


I managed to get £20 each way @ 12/1 with Betfred in one of those stores this morning
Machiavellian

Rowan wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent


According to RP his agent didn't even know he was in Cyprus, which considering he was meant to be riding today is a bit.. worrying!


Should get CHAPPERS back
FallonFacta

Machiavellian wrote:
Rowan wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent


According to RP his agent didn't even know he was in Cyprus, which considering he was meant to be riding today is a bit.. worrying!


Should get CHAPPERS back

He was very loyal when he mentioned it!  "Darryl Holland has been found in the vicinity of counterfit notes!"

How do you spell counterfeit??  Counterfit??
Machiavellian

FallonFacta wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
Rowan wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent


According to RP his agent didn't even know he was in Cyprus, which considering he was meant to be riding today is a bit.. worrying!


Should get CHAPPERS back

He was very loyal when he mentioned it!  "Darryl Holland has been found in the vicinity of counterfit notes!"

How do you spell counterfeit??  Counterfit??


First one
FallonFacta

Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
Rowan wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent


According to RP his agent didn't even know he was in Cyprus, which considering he was meant to be riding today is a bit.. worrying!


Should get CHAPPERS back

He was very loyal when he mentioned it!  "Darryl Holland has been found in the vicinity of counterfit notes!"

How do you spell counterfeit??  Counterfit??


First one

Thank you!  I have no idea why this is so important to me  
Machiavellian

FallonFacta wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
Rowan wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent


According to RP his agent didn't even know he was in Cyprus, which considering he was meant to be riding today is a bit.. worrying!


Should get CHAPPERS back

He was very loyal when he mentioned it!  "Darryl Holland has been found in the vicinity of counterfit notes!"

How do you spell counterfeit??  Counterfit??


First one

Thank you!  I have no idea why this is so important to me  

The story or spelling?
YAIYAM

shamardal84 wrote:
YAIYAM wrote:
Some of you may have noticed, I know some have from the pm's I have recieved that Sutton Veny runs tonight in the 7:20 @ wolves.

The basic Jist of it is that the trainer feels he has never had her better and as long as she has no Ill effects from the kick back of her first run on the allweather(drawn wide) she is good enough to win this race quite comfortably and he would be extremely disappointed If she could not at least place even If Buick had to take her wide to avoid the kick back.

What I am a bit concerned with at the moment is that you have the dead eight so I have been a bit reluctant to place an each way bet until nearer the off, however I have been trying to get the 12/1 best price with a few bookies without to much success. Was knocked back by Stan James and was told £14.39 E/W was the max I am allowed, Boylesports were a bit more accomadating but not much.
What I do not understand is Stan James will put a max on for one person but will still offer the 12/1 to others, my question to them was what difference does it make who's money it is and surely If they do not want to take more at 12's they should lower the price.

Anyway it looks like I will have to take my chance on the place part with Betfair later on.


I managed to get £20 each way @ 12/1 with Betfred in one of those stores this morning


I don't know why but recently I have not been able to bet on Betfred's online site because the betslip is to far over on the right so cannot put any figures in.
Anyone else have this problem or how to sort it out?
lochsong

Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
Rowan wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
From Channel 4    The Dazzler "apparently" in jail in Cyprus for passing counterfit notes!!!


Times like this you need a good agent


According to RP his agent didn't even know he was in Cyprus, which considering he was meant to be riding today is a bit.. worrying!


Should get CHAPPERS back

He was very loyal when he mentioned it!  "Darryl Holland has been found in the vicinity of counterfit notes!"

How do you spell counterfeit??  Counterfit??


First one

Thank you!  I have no idea why this is so important to me  

The story or spelling?


lol
Machiavellian

YAIYAM wrote:
shamardal84 wrote:
YAIYAM wrote:
Some of you may have noticed, I know some have from the pm's I have recieved that Sutton Veny runs tonight in the 7:20 @ wolves.

The basic Jist of it is that the trainer feels he has never had her better and as long as she has no Ill effects from the kick back of her first run on the allweather(drawn wide) she is good enough to win this race quite comfortably and he would be extremely disappointed If she could not at least place even If Buick had to take her wide to avoid the kick back.

What I am a bit concerned with at the moment is that you have the dead eight so I have been a bit reluctant to place an each way bet until nearer the off, however I have been trying to get the 12/1 best price with a few bookies without to much success. Was knocked back by Stan James and was told £14.39 E/W was the max I am allowed, Boylesports were a bit more accomadating but not much.
What I do not understand is Stan James will put a max on for one person but will still offer the 12/1 to others, my question to them was what difference does it make who's money it is and surely If they do not want to take more at 12's they should lower the price.

Anyway it looks like I will have to take my chance on the place part with Betfair later on.


I managed to get £20 each way @ 12/1 with Betfred in one of those stores this morning


I don't know why but recently I have not been able to bet on Betfred's online site because the betslip is to far over on the right so cannot put any figures in.
Anyone else have this problem or how to sort it out?


Betfred's site if awful. If I need to use them I access it directly through oddschecker which presents a pop up betslip, that should sort you out Yaiyam
FallonFacta

One of those days - profit of 48p  

Trixie for tonight

K 6.05 Inflammable
W 8.20 Merchant of Medici
W 9.20 Insolence

I'm guaranteed to miss the races when I get buried into X Factor!  
lochsong

FallonFacta wrote:
One of those days - profit of 48p  

Trixie for tonight

K 6.05 Inflammable
W 8.20 Merchant of Medici
W 9.20 Insolence

I'm guaranteed to miss the races when I get buried into X Factor!  


What's X factor?

Is it where Cowell and his bints play mind games with prospective superstars?
FallonFacta

lochsong wrote:
What's X factor?

Is it where Cowell and his bints play mind games with prospective superstars?


Yes

Bints!!  
lochsong

YAIYAM wrote:
lochsong wrote:
I've been watching the BF odds for SV and there hasn't been much liquidity.

I'll go check again.


There would not be much on a race like that anyway Lochsong


Seems to be gathering momentum.

Someone just took a pile of 3.5 tbp

YAIYAM

lochsong wrote:
YAIYAM wrote:
lochsong wrote:
I've been watching the BF odds for SV and there hasn't been much liquidity.

I'll go check again.


There would not be much on a race like that anyway Lochsong


Seems to be gathering momentum.

Someone just took a pile of 3.5 tbp



Just phoned one of the other owners at the course, he has been by the assistant trainer if she runs like she did when she won at Lingfield she will win easy today and he reckons she is even better than that on her home form.
YAIYAM

Well said Dave Duggan  
FallonFacta

Good luck Yaiyam  

I have not been able to resist playing this!
theGoingStick

I've got some 3/1 in the place market.
lenahan

Ive joined in too. What the heck
lochsong

YAIYAM wrote:
lochsong wrote:
YAIYAM wrote:
lochsong wrote:
I've been watching the BF odds for SV and there hasn't been much liquidity.

I'll go check again.


There would not be much on a race like that anyway Lochsong


Seems to be gathering momentum.

Someone just took a pile of 3.5 tbp



Just phoned one of the other owners at the course, he has been by the assistant trainer if she runs like she did when she won at Lingfield she will win easy today and he reckons she is even better than that on her home form.


If she comes third that'll be good enough for me.

Hang on to your hats folks.

lewijay

Missed the race due to some rubbish dancing program but got the place i think YY. Nice one and thanks for the info.
theGoingStick

BOOOOM  :thin:

Nice work YY  
YAIYAM

I thought she had done enough then when they came around the bend as she looked like she had gone quick enough to not get passed.
Maybe having to track over from stall 8 was Just that little bit to much for her to win.
A good run for her first run on the allweather so may have a bit of fun with her over the winter.
I hope people took the 3/1 TBP as that was a huge price
lenahan

Thatll do Brilliant cheers YY. I guess there is going to be some dissapointment from yourself that there was one better on the day. The win would have been nice. Im more than made up with the place though as after throwing away a few quid today thats got it all back plus a fair bit extra to go into next weekends pot

Cheers.
lochsong

YAIYAM wrote:
I thought she had done enough then when they came around the bend as she looked like she had gone quick enough to not get passed.
Maybe having to track over from stall 8 was Just that little bit to much for her to win.
A good run for her first run on the allweather so may have a bit of fun with her over the winter.
I hope people took the 3/1 TBP as that was a huge price


Nice    
FallonFacta

Thanks YY  
BRETT

just went to hit confirm and it went in play

wp everyone else though.

fault and sendreni in the 7.50 at wolves w&p
FallonFacta

FallonFacta wrote:
One of those days - profit of 48p  

Trixie for tonight

K 6.05 Inflammable
W 8.20 Merchant of Medici
W 9.20 Insolence

I'm guaranteed to miss the races when I get buried into X Factor!  

  So that's changed to a large single on Insolence  
lochsong

FallonFacta wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
One of those days - profit of 48p  

Trixie for tonight

K 6.05 Inflammable
W 8.20 Merchant of Medici
W 9.20 Insolence

I'm guaranteed to miss the races when I get buried into X Factor!  

  So that's changed to a large single on Insolence  


Thought you were buried in the X Factor?

Or is that over now?
lochsong

Black Eagle anyone?
FallonFacta

lochsong wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
FallonFacta wrote:
One of those days - profit of 48p  

Trixie for tonight

K 6.05 Inflammable
W 8.20 Merchant of Medici
W 9.20 Insolence

I'm guaranteed to miss the races when I get buried into X Factor!  

  So that's changed to a large single on Insolence  


Thought you were buried in the X Factor?

Or is that over now?

I manage to turn over to see them lose  
theGoingStick

Do the people responsible for the weetabix advert not realise that the jockey would not of won the Rigby stakes without riding his horse ?
lochsong

theGoingStick wrote:
Do the people responsible for the weetabix advert not realise that the jockey would not of won the Rigby stakes without riding his horse ?


What you on about mate?

I'm over on the other side having a barny with your counterpart, and trying to make love with you over here,.
Rowan

theGoingStick wrote:
Do the people responsible for the weetabix advert not realise that the jockey would not of won the Rigby stakes without riding his horse ?



LOL

The least of the problems...

At least it's better than "Richard!..... Dunwoody?"
Rochesterlad

lochsong wrote:
Tagalie will be creaming herself if she watched that.

She loves little Fair Along.



Just looking through Saturday`s racing thread and this is the only feedback the forum has to offer on yesterdays race!!!  

Super effort from the horse but surely punters who backed the horse in the Cesarewitch must feel hard done by...Finished way back in 25th place and never put in the race by Fallon.

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