Jimbob
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Tour De France 2009Le Tour is the greatest spectacle in all of the sporting world in my opinion. I'm not normally one to bet big on cycling and will not be making an exception here but Cadel Evans at 11/1 is surely a great Each Way bet. I'll have a bit on that for sure!!
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LongJ0n
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Cadels bound to be up there but his team are relatively weak and will they carry him through the mountain stages? Contador again looks a certainty, the Astana team is beastly this year. I wouldnt be backing Armstrong, hes got to work for Contador and waste his energy on helping him through the mountains. Menchov won the Giro but he always underperforms in the tour. For me, Andy Schleck should end up on the podium and a couple of e/w outsiders would be Sastre again and Vandevelde at a much bigger price.
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value seeker
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2PTS Alberto Contador winner at evs power ,hills
0.5 pts ew Carlos Sastre 20s skybet
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value seeker
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Stage 2
Backing manxman Mark Cavendish expect the sprint king to win today ,if he does it will be the last time you will get odds against him in the sprints ,so strike while the irons hot.
Recommended bet
3.75 points Cavendish 11/8 pp
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Jimbob
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Well played VS 
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LongJ0n
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Good shout VS, if he gets through the mountains he'll surely win the green jersey
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Jimbob
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| LongJ0n wrote: | | Good shout VS, if he gets through the mountains he'll surely win the green jersey |
Probably but that's a big IF
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | Stage 2
Backing manxman Mark Cavendish expect the sprint king to win today ,if he does it will be the last time you will get odds against him in the sprints ,so strike while the irons hot.
Recommended bet
3.75 points Cavendish 11/8 pp |
8.31 points returned
profit=4.56 points 
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Owl of Minerva
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VS mopping up profits all over the place at the minute! Keep it going old boy 
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value seeker
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | VS mopping up profits all over the place at the minute! Keep it going old boy |
less of the old ,im still playing five a side and no im not the goalie 
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | Stage 2
Backing manxman Mark Cavendish expect the sprint king to win today ,if he does it will be the last time you will get odds against him in the sprints ,so strike while the irons hot.
Recommended bet
3.75 points Cavendish 11/8 pp |
As stated above if the manxman won yesterday the value would go ,which it has best now is ladcrookes 4/5 ,8/13 im most place .so will look for an each way altenative fot todays stage 3 ,Tyler Farrar was second yesterday ,could say couldnt get near the manxmans tail but manx cats have no tail ,the young yank is just 8s with ladcrookes but stan james go 14s which is a real value price ,feel lads are more close to the mark.
Suggested bet
1PT EW TYLER FARRAR 14S STAN JAMES
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | | value seeker wrote: | Stage 2
Backing manxman Mark Cavendish expect the sprint king to win today ,if he does it will be the last time you will get odds against him in the sprints ,so strike while the irons hot.
Recommended bet
3.75 points Cavendish 11/8 pp |
As stated above if the manxman won yesterday the value would go ,which it has best now is ladcrookes 4/5 ,8/13 im most place .so will look for an each way altenative fot todays stage 3 ,Tyler Farrar was second yesterday ,could say couldnt get near the manxmans tail but manx cats have no tail ,the young yank is just 8s with ladcrookes but stan james go 14s which is a real value price ,feel lads are more close to the mark.
Suggested bet
1PT EW TYLER FARRAR 14S STAN JAMES |
betfair prices for Farrar 24.0 win
2.86 top three finish.
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lenahan
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Todays stage 6. Currently 15km left. David Millar in the lead by just over a minute to the peloton. A few riders strung between him and the peloton. Surely he gets caught from here ?
1.7 currently on him looks like a big lay to me and with Mark Cavendish in the pack he looks huge at 20/1 at this moment to win given youd expect him to win the sprint again....
laying both millar at 1.7 and backing Cav myself at 20/1...
lets see...
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lenahan
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| lenahan wrote: | Todays stage 6. Currently 15km left. David Millar in the lead by just over a minute to the peloton. A few riders strung between him and the peloton. Surely he gets caught from here ?
1.7 currently on him looks like a big lay to me and with Mark Cavendish in the pack he looks huge at 20/1 at this moment to win given youd expect him to win the sprint again....
laying both millar at 1.7 and backing Cav myself at 20/1...
lets see... |
Happy with that. Millar caught just 2km out. Cav didnt win the sprint though.
Enjoying watching bits of this 
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | 2PTS Alberto Contador winner at evs power ,hills
0.5 pts ew Carlos Sastre 20s skybet |
4/11 best price Contador now,Sastre still thereabouts only 18s blue square and power but 40s with baldfred.
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LongJ0n
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Its all about Cavendish at the mo!
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Jimbob
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On the Radio2 News today they said that Cavendish had won his 4th stage today and his 8th stage overall. They then went on to say he has no chance of winning the tour & getting the Yellow Jersey as, like a lot of sprinters, he's not very good in the mountains. This is of course true but no mention of the fact that he has a good chance of taking The Green Jersey! And people wonder why they say the British don't like winners 
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lenahan
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Cav a good lay tommoro at 2.4 with a breakaway highly likely to succeed.
Should be a free lay as can always back it back if it looks like any breakaway riders will be caught.
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lenahan
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| lenahan wrote: | Cav a good lay tommoro at 2.4 with a breakaway highly likely to succeed.
Should be a free lay as can always back it back if it looks like any breakaway riders will be caught. |
Cav out to 1000.job done.hes not winning today.
Great tour by the lad so far though. Still a chance of another stage win or two.
going to be interesting over the next few days now the real mountain stages are arriving.
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Solerina
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| Jimbob wrote: | | On the Radio2 News today they said that Cavendish had won his 4th stage today and his 8th stage overall. They then went on to say he has no chance of winning the tour & getting the Yellow Jersey as, like a lot of sprinters, he's not very good in the mountains. This is of course true but no mention of the fact that he has a good chance of taking The Green Jersey! And people wonder why they say the British don't like winners |
He's only + 1h 13' 54" off the Maillot jaune
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Machiavellian
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Captivating stuff this afternoon
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | 2PTS Alberto Contador winner at evs power ,hills
0.5 pts ew Carlos Sastre 20s skybet |
best price in the high street on Contador 1/8 with the bald one ,fred that is.
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geordie_racer
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| Solerina wrote: | | Jimbob wrote: | | On the Radio2 News today they said that Cavendish had won his 4th stage today and his 8th stage overall. They then went on to say he has no chance of winning the tour & getting the Yellow Jersey as, like a lot of sprinters, he's not very good in the mountains. This is of course true but no mention of the fact that he has a good chance of taking The Green Jersey! And people wonder why they say the British don't like winners |
He's only + 1h 13' 54" off the Maillot jaune |
he also has no chance of the green now.
sad really
where is Bradley Wiggins overall?
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Dr_tyler
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Haven't been following it but I think Wiggins is in 3rd...
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | 2PTS Alberto Contador winner at evs power ,hills
0.5 pts ew Carlos Sastre 20s skybet |
Contador best price 1/66 .
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Jimbob
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FIRE  
Let's hope it's kept under control and doesn't affect the tour!
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Rowan
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| Jimbob wrote: | FIRE
Let's hope it's kept under control and doesn't affect the tour! |
Fire?
What, on a bicycle?!?
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Jimbob
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| Rowan wrote: | | Jimbob wrote: | FIRE
Let's hope it's kept under control and doesn't affect the tour! |
Fire?
What, on a bicycle?!? |
The fire plane seems to have taken care of it but there was a fire on the mountain and they were heading straight too it. They haven't mentioned it for a while so can only assume it has been dealt with
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Rowan
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| Jimbob wrote: | | Rowan wrote: | | Jimbob wrote: | FIRE
Let's hope it's kept under control and doesn't affect the tour! |
Fire?
What, on a bicycle?!? |
The fire plane seems to have taken care of it but there was a fire on the mountain and they were heading straight too it. They haven't mentioned it for a while so can only assume it has been dealt with |
Ah! I had visions of someone's brake block being stuck on the rim!!
Yes, there's been a few fires in France - apparently the French Foreign Legion started one/some of them firing the wrong stuff!
BBC text says it was under control (14:14) but did mention that there were rather a lot of spectators out on the road.... (14:42)
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Owl of Minerva
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Backed Hushovd E/W (1/4-1,2,3) @ 8/1 to win the stage today.
On betfair he's 9/1 for the win and circa evens to place so I take the view that the e/w bet is the way to go as I get 8/1 for the win and 2/1 for the place part of the bet.
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Machiavellian
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Mark Cavendish 
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Owl of Minerva
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Cav: MACHINE!!
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Binge
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I know each stage has intermediate sprints on them so points can be scored throughout each stage but doesn't it seem slightly bizarre that one rider can win 6 (SIX!!!!!!) stages outright on a single Tour and not have enough points to win the Green Jersey.
Meanwhile the winner of the Green wins 1 stage during the Tour!
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Rammy
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| Binge wrote: | I know each stage has intermediate sprints on them so points can be scored throughout each stage but doesn't it seem slightly bizarre that one rider can win 6 (SIX!!!!!!) stages outright on a single Tour and not have enough points to win the Green Jersey.
Meanwhile the winner of the Green wins 1 stage during the Tour! |
Agree with you Binge, perhaps the points for winning the stage should be more than those given for the intermediate sprints.
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geordie_racer
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cavendish didnt win the green jersey because of the objection (upheld) against ihs riding when he was alleged to have "squeezed" the gree jersy winner against a rail; otherwise he would have won by a decent magin
the achievments of cavendish and wiggins are, frankly, monumental.
they desreve greater recognition and praise than the press are giving them... the trouble is john terry not moving is a bigger story than a british rider finishing 4th in the tour.
sadly,
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value seeker
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| value seeker wrote: | 2PTS Alberto Contador winner at evs power ,hills
0.5 pts ew Carlos Sastre 20s skybet |
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Binge
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| geordie_racer wrote: |
the achievments of cavendish and wiggins are, frankly, monumental.
they desreve greater recognition and praise than the press are giving them... the trouble is john terry not moving is a bigger story than a british rider finishing 4th in the tour.
sadly, |
Totally agree GR. I actually think of the British sporting achievements in 2009 thus far Cav ought to be a shoo-in for SPOTY but we know that won't happen (I expect he'll feature heavily in a lot of the writers awards though in Dec.)
Even if Button were to win the F1 Championship, in my eyes Cav's achievement surpasses that, as give or take each rider of the Tour is on the same bike. Yes there are team tactics and team mates are crucial but that is all human endeavour and precision out on the road - and virtually every stage that involved a sprint finish he won. Britain has the fastest man in the world on a bike!
Wiggins achievement is also phenomenal and it will be really interesting next year to watch it with a genuine GC contender. Top bloke too whenever I've seen him interviewed, I've got his autobiography (although it'll probably now get a re-print with this year's Tour - just as Hoy's did just after I'd read it when he then went and won 3 golds in China!)
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Jimbob
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| Binge wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: |
the achievments of cavendish and wiggins are, frankly, monumental.
they desreve greater recognition and praise than the press are giving them... the trouble is john terry not moving is a bigger story than a british rider finishing 4th in the tour.
sadly, |
Totally agree GR. I actually think of the British sporting achievements in 2009 thus far Cav ought to be a shoo-in for SPOTY but we know that won't happen (I expect he'll feature heavily in a lot of the writers awards though in Dec.)
Even if Button were to win the F1 Championship, in my eyes Cav's achievement surpasses that, as give or take each rider of the Tour is on the same bike. Yes there are team tactics and team mates are crucial but that is all human endeavour and precision out on the road - and virtually every stage that involved a sprint finish he won. Britain has the fastest man in the world on a bike!
Wiggins achievement is also phenomenal and it will be really interesting next year to watch it with a genuine GC contender. Top bloke too whenever I've seen him interviewed, I've got his autobiography (although it'll probably now get a re-print with this year's Tour - just as Hoy's did just after I'd read it when he then went and won 3 golds in China!) |
The Independent's pretty good for cycling coverage. 4 full pages yesterday
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