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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the Team is there any chance they do the whole Team GB??  It would cover everyone?  

I need to see the Gymnastics bronze yet - hope the Beeb still have it behind the red button....
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For the Team is there any chance they do the whole Team GB??  It would cover everyone?  


Cycling team surely! They've been awesome
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have indeed, Owl. I think it'll depend on what the Beeb defines as a Team (or do they now just give people a list to choose from, on the grounds that they think that very few people who watch the Beeb nowadays are capable of independent thought?)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC will use the SPotY to pat themseleves on the back for bringing the Games to us via the T.V. & P.C.

I would be very surprised if the award didn't go to a Gold winner from the Games.

It would be a choice of Adlington or Ainsley at the moment with may be Hoy & Wiggins in there too!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The BBC will use the SPotY to pat themseleves on the back for bringing the Games to us via the T.V. & P.C.


You mean the voting will be rigged?.....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The BBC will use the SPotY to pat themseleves on the back for bringing the Games to us via the T.V. & P.C.


You mean the voting will be rigged?.....


Surely not!

Think about it....

There will be around 6 candidates & only one of them is likely to be from outside the contestants from the Games & that will be Lewis Hamilton.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jennywales wrote:
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The BBC will use the SPotY to pat themseleves on the back for bringing the Games to us via the T.V. & P.C.


You mean the voting will be rigged?.....


Surely not!

Think about it....

There will be around 6 candidates & only one of them is likely to be from outside the contestants from the Games & that will be Lewis Hamilton.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, maybe I have not kept up, but "in my day" it was an open vote, that is, there was no pre-determined candidate list; you could vote for anyone you chose - and surely that was the point?

When did they start providing lists of who you can vote for? That is cheating, in my opinion (and probably why several really deserving candidates, including Tony McCoy, have never won it).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah, maybe I have not kept up, but "in my day" it was an open vote, that is, there was no pre-determined candidate list; you could vote for anyone you chose - and surely that was the point?

When did they start providing lists of who you can vote for? That is cheating, in my opinion (and probably why several really deserving candidates, including Tony McCoy, have never won it).


Good ole telephone voting that's how!

They give a list of names & a telephone number to ring for your fav!

You know you can trust it!    
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that's gold medal number 2 for the Wiggster.
One more & he may just be in with a shout come December.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you reckon the short list is to make sure that they are voting for someone who will be there, rather than vote for someone who deserves recognition but finds the show predictable.???
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear that the BBC have appointed Ant & Dec to count the votes.  
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are people no longer thought to be able to write a name on a postcard and send it to the correct address?

With a postal vote, they would know the winner in advance and could make sure to invite him/her and also the runners up etc. If necessary, they could tell the winner in advance, if he/she were a reluctant attendee.

The idea of a shortlist to choose from goes against my grain. Maybe I would like to vote for someone not on the shortlist! Who does the choosing of the short list? (Who guards the guardians?)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So let's get this right;

If Lewis Hamilton wins then it is fixed to create publicity for the new FI BBC coverage

If an Olympian wins then it is fixed so that the BBC can highlight their Olympiucs coverage

It's all a conspiracy  

Load of tosh
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why? I don't suppose for a moment that the voting will be rigged in the way you mean (although the BBC's record in the matter of telephone competitions and votes isn't great!)

My objection is that people are asked to vote for a pre-determined list, not for the person they think is the SPOTY. What if my choice for SPOTY isn't on the list? - I am then disenfranchised, because I would obviously refuse to vote for someone else I didn't think deserved to win....


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