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p.s; what does ROFL mean?!


Roll on the floor laughing


You didn't see what i wrote did you tGS?! If you did, don't tell Uncle Alan or Auntie Jen!    
How long have you been a mod for anyhow? - I only noticed the other day

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The first British medal could come on the first day of competition via Craig Fallon in the under 60 kgs Judo..

he is a former World and European champion and much will depend on the draw...

Judo is very much an 'on-the-day' type of sport and if he has a 'good day' he is capable of beating anyone...

the other guys also have chances (Euan Burton in particular)...it is available on BBCi for live coverage and I highly recommend you watch it if you can..

GB has never had an Olympic champion (Neil Adams came the closest with 2 silvers in 80 and 84) and some others medalled too

really hoping one of our men can win gold and stimulate interest in this fantastic sport


No medal.    About as stimulating as Jo Brand in a bikini


Well I hope some of you have seen some of the judo... it's been fantastic

Euan Burton has a good chance in the -81kgs on Tuesday, Winston Gordon like wise and Peter Cousins is a serious medal hope in the heavyweights

I been glued to the coverage everynight and havent had a wink opf sleep since it started.. loving it
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Judge, I think that, like dressage, you have to have some experience, direct or indirect, with the sport really to appreciate what is going on. When I watch judo, I notice that the people doing it (playing? is that right?) are very quick and have tremendous balance and strength. But beyond that I can't really see what exactly scores points and what doesn't (and more importantly why). So I am left a bit in the dark as to the competitive side of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Judge, I think that, like dressage, you have to have some experience, direct or indirect, with the sport really to appreciate what is going on. When I watch judo, I notice that the people doing it (playing? is that right?) are very quick and have tremendous balance and strength. But beyond that I can't really see what exactly scores points and what doesn't (and more importantly why). So I am left a bit in the dark as to the competitive side of it.


It's the same with EVERY sport.  If you don't know the rules, you won't understand what is going on.  Seems pretty simple

By the way, I love judo, done it since I was 5-6, but then broke my leg a couple of years back and haven't got back into it.  Haven't even watched any of it at the Olympics either which is a shame.
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Judge, I think that, like dressage, you have to have some experience, direct or indirect, with the sport really to appreciate what is going on. When I watch judo, I notice that the people doing it (playing? is that right?) are very quick and have tremendous balance and strength. But beyond that I can't really see what exactly scores points and what doesn't (and more importantly why). So I am left a bit in the dark as to the competitive side of it.


It's the same with EVERY sport.  If you don't know the rules, you won't understand what is going on.  Seems pretty simple

By the way, I love judo, done it since I was 5-6, but then broke my leg a couple of years back and haven't got back into it.  Haven't even watched any of it at the Olympics either which is a shame.


No I don't know the rules for judo - but then I don't know the rules for gymnastics, football (in detail), canoeing, shooting, archery, rowing, swimming, weightlifting, boxing and so on, but I still enjoy watching them - because some sports are pretty obvious about who wins even if you don't know the detailed rules, and some of them are not. Judo is one of the "not"s, I fear. Perhaps you could direct me to a website where I can learn what to look for in judo? That would be more helpful....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I cant stand swimming, cycling or rowing but I am bloody well watching it in case someone (one of ours) does something good and wins a medal. I even watched the bleedin womens archery bronze medal play off for bronze..

so I'm telling ya we have a decent chance of a medal in the judo tomorrow..it's on BBCi around 10-30ish so all I'm saying is check it out..we may get a medal..

and it beats interminable heats of people you cant see ploughing up and down the pool.
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so I'm telling ya we have a decent chance of a medal in the judo tomorrow..it's on BBCi around 10-30ish so all I'm saying is check it out..we may get a medal..



I'll try and watch that then  

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Judge, I think that, like dressage, you have to have some experience, direct or indirect, with the sport really to appreciate what is going on. When I watch judo, I notice that the people doing it (playing? is that right?) are very quick and have tremendous balance and strength. But beyond that I can't really see what exactly scores points and what doesn't (and more importantly why). So I am left a bit in the dark as to the competitive side of it.


It's the same with EVERY sport.  If you don't know the rules, you won't understand what is going on.  Seems pretty simple

By the way, I love judo, done it since I was 5-6, but then broke my leg a couple of years back and haven't got back into it.  Haven't even watched any of it at the Olympics either which is a shame.


No I don't know the rules for judo - but then I don't know the rules for gymnastics, football (in detail), canoeing, shooting, archery, rowing, swimming, weightlifting, boxing and so on, but I still enjoy watching them - because some sports are pretty obvious about who wins even if you don't know the detailed rules, and some of them are not. Judo is one of the "not"s, I fear. Perhaps you could direct me to a website where I can learn what to look for in judo? That would be more helpful....


I wasn't having a go.  Just saying that you will enjoy sports you understand more than ones you don't!!!  Why not try researching it yourself if you are so bothered about understanding the rules?
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Jenny, try looking at this

http://www.olympics.org.uk/beijing2008/sportabout.aspx?gt=S&sp=JU


basic scoring is:

Ippon: this scores outright and immediate victory, can be achieved by throwing opponent clean and with impetus onto the back, by pinning the opponent for 25 seconds or by forcing a submission by a strangle of arm lock. Referee indicates this by raising his arm directly above his head

waza-ari: a near ippon, equivalent o a 3/4 point (scoring two of these makes an ippon and ends the contest). Referee raises arm horizontally to shoulder height

yuko: half point scored by throwing opponent mainly on their side. Referee points to 7 o'clock with his right arm

koka: minor score, little impetus..commonly called a knock down...indicated by ref showing palm of hand at about shoulder height (like a red indian 'How')


there are also penalty scores of the same value...and these can be awrded for various infringements

important point to note that one higher score will always supercede any number of lower scores.

Hope this helps your enjoyment!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks judge that is a help

as i mentioned earlier on this thread vis a vis the dressage, having someone watching with you who knows what they are looking for always helps the enjoyment imho
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The archery team final was serious - i truly am converted!
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RightJudgeIam wrote:
Owl of Minerva wrote:
RightJudgeIam wrote:
The first British medal could come on the first day of competition via Craig Fallon in the under 60 kgs Judo..

he is a former World and European champion and much will depend on the draw...

Judo is very much an 'on-the-day' type of sport and if he has a 'good day' he is capable of beating anyone...

the other guys also have chances (Euan Burton in particular)...it is available on BBCi for live coverage and I highly recommend you watch it if you can..

GB has never had an Olympic champion (Neil Adams came the closest with 2 silvers in 80 and 84) and some others medalled too

really hoping one of our men can win gold and stimulate interest in this fantastic sport


No medal.    About as stimulating as Jo Brand in a bikini


Well I hope some of you have seen some of the judo... it's been fantastic

Euan Burton has a good chance in the -81kgs on Tuesday, Winston Gordon like wise and Peter Cousins is a serious medal hope in the heavyweights

I been glued to the coverage everynight and havent had a wink opf sleep since it started.. loving it


I've been enjoying watching the judo. I've been wanting to take up a random sport - maybe judo could be the one! I think I'd be good - was always good at wrestling my mates when I was younger and I'm quite strong for a skinny guy    Seriously though Rick would you recommend it and is it a good sport to start even for someone in their mid-20's? Is it a better choice than the likes of Karate, Tae-Kwon-Do etc. - I defintely want to take up a new physical sport. Any advice appreciated!

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RightJudgeIam wrote:
Jenny, try looking at this

http://www.olympics.org.uk/beijing2008/sportabout.aspx?gt=S&sp=JU


basic scoring is:

Ippon: this scores outright and immediate victory, can be achieved by throwing opponent clean and with impetus onto the back, by pinning the opponent for 25 seconds or by forcing a submission by a strangle of arm lock. Referee indicates this by raising his arm directly above his head

waza-ari: a near ippon, equivalent o a 3/4 point (scoring two of these makes an ippon and ends the contest). Referee raises arm horizontally to shoulder height

yuko: half point scored by throwing opponent mainly on their side. Referee points to 7 o'clock with his right arm

koka: minor score, little impetus..commonly called a knock down...indicated by ref showing palm of hand at about shoulder height (like a red indian 'How')


there are also penalty scores of the same value...and these can be awrded for various infringements

important point to note that one higher score will always supercede any number of lower scores.

Hope this helps your enjoyment!


Thanks added to Geordies'! I will have a look and watch the judo carefully for a bit - with I am sure much improved enjoyment!
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Owl of Minerva wrote:
RightJudgeIam wrote:
Owl of Minerva wrote:
RightJudgeIam wrote:
The first British medal could come on the first day of competition via Craig Fallon in the under 60 kgs Judo..

he is a former World and European champion and much will depend on the draw...

Judo is very much an 'on-the-day' type of sport and if he has a 'good day' he is capable of beating anyone...

the other guys also have chances (Euan Burton in particular)...it is available on BBCi for live coverage and I highly recommend you watch it if you can..

GB has never had an Olympic champion (Neil Adams came the closest with 2 silvers in 80 and 84) and some others medalled too

really hoping one of our men can win gold and stimulate interest in this fantastic sport


No medal.    About as stimulating as Jo Brand in a bikini


Well I hope some of you have seen some of the judo... it's been fantastic

Euan Burton has a good chance in the -81kgs on Tuesday, Winston Gordon like wise and Peter Cousins is a serious medal hope in the heavyweights

I been glued to the coverage everynight and havent had a wink opf sleep since it started.. loving it


I've been enjoying watching the judo. I've been wanting to take up a random sport - maybe judo could be the one! I think I'd be good - was always good at wrestling my mates when I was younger and I'm quite strong for a skinny guy    Seriously though Rick would you recommend it and is it a good sport to start even for someone in their mid-20's? Is it a better choice than the likes of Karate, Tae-Kwon-Do etc. - I defintely want to take up a new physical sport. Any advice appreciated!

Owl


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judo is a fantastic sport to take up...if you are seriously unfit (not saying you are) it can be very tough on the body so my advice would be to get your fitness level improved first... feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this in more detail..

second piece of advice would be to look up the British Judo Association website.. it is the officially recognised organisation of judo in the UK (there are others)... find a club and join a beginners class for 12 weeks...this will introduce you to the sport

from there you can move on...within 3 to 5 months you could start going to what are called 'Promotion Examinations'... this is a day where you will fight 2 to 5 contests against other players of your level and will be able to go through the grades, changing the colour of your belt (white, yellow, orange, green, blue, brown and black)...

practicising 2 to 3 times a week and doing some fitness work you could hope to achieve a 'black belt' in about 5 years depending on your ability.

Judo is a really fantastic sport, will get you seriously fit and strong, develope self-confidence and provide you with serious skills for street defence...

haha if ever anyone threatens to punch me I say 'you better make sure you dont miss coz if you do I'm gonna pick you up and throw you right on the top of your head'... thats usually enough to stop them

The big difference with judo compared to Tae kwan do and karate is that judo is 'full contact' from day one meaning you will actually be fighting people instead of standing in a room punching air for weeks on end. Be aware however that judo is very demanding.

All in all I'd say go for it!!



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