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Again, to clarify, I am not saying she is a cheat. What I am saying is that it surely can't be that hard to understand that, given the history of athletics and drugs, a small nagging doubt over the affair may, not unreasonably, cause some people to be - through no concious decision - unable to feel quite the same level of joy for this gold medalist as for others who don't have this small question mark hanging over them.
You could say with the history of drug cheats in the 100M people might dought Bolts win & the way he won & just say he must of been on drugs to do that!
I guess running will never get away from the issue of drugs unless we have may be two or three 'clean' games! _________________ SBH Comp 2008 - Runner Up
whilst celebrating victories in rowing and sailing is the typical British snobbery that encouraged me to leave the country.
Sorry Judge, but I don't see the logic. If we celebrate victory by one person or team, then surely we should equally celebrate victory by another person or team? The whole point of sport, I thought, is that it is a great leveller, and it doesn't matter if you come from a sink estate in south London or the Home Counties, as long as you have the talent and the motivation to achieve the highest standards, or indeed any standard. Maybe Ohorugu has overcome greater obstacles than some to achieve what she has done, but why disrespect the others just because they started out with a (presumed) advantage. They have worked just as hard and maybe sacrificed just as much.
I wasn't disrespecting any of the athletes whether they be winners or not in any sport. I was referring to the overwhelming sense of joy that all the winners in cycling, sailing, swimming and rowing. Yet when Christine O wins our first track gold in an event that we have never won before there are a whole load of raised eyebrows and knowing smiles (not just on here but on the radio too) as if she doesn't deserve the same recognition. Somehow the poor girl has got tarnished with a reputation she doesnt deserve and apparently no matter what she does she'll never be regarded with the same level of respect and admiration as other champions. Really harsh.. she should be regarded as currently our best track and field athlete and warmly embraced.
My comment about leaving the country was only an aside and of course I didnt leave because of snobbery alone. In fact I have left Great Britain 3 times (Italy May 91-Oct 92, France Jan 95 to May 99, Spain May 2005 to present) and each was for a different reason. _________________ RJI
Again, to clarify, I am not saying she is a cheat. What I am saying is that it surely can't be that hard to understand that, given the history of athletics and drugs, a small nagging doubt over the affair may, not unreasonably, cause some people to be - through no concious decision - unable to feel quite the same level of joy for this gold medalist as for others who don't have this small question mark hanging over them.
You could say with the history of drug cheats in the 100M people might dought Bolts win & the way he won & just say he must of been on drugs to do that!
I guess running will never get away from the issue of drugs unless we have may be two or three 'clean' games!
The difference is that he has not missed any scheduled dope tests, i dont think. BIG BIG BIG difference.
Linford Christie is Jamaican (and he tested positive BTW)
Kevin Pietersen is South African and the England Cricket captain
so what's your point about her being of Nigerian descent?
My point is that a black bloke(whom I've worked with) of Nigerian descent (senior vice president) married to an Irish girl, ran into the reception area where the big telly is after hearing the televised cheering and asked me if it was a tight finish. I said Britain had won.
He said that's a medal for Nigeria because she was of Nigerian origin.
That's my point.
Blood is thicker than water. _________________ Does killing time damage eternity?
This is turning out to be a great games for the Brits. I must take this chance to extend a hand of congratulation to all the British on this forum.
Some may think i am taking the piss but i am not when i say i am actually chuffed to see the British doing so well. The cycling team have been bloody amazing - it is just so so easy from them, they are a class apart.
When you look at the British medals at least you know that 99% of the athletes are clean which cannot be said about the Chinese or Americans for that matter. Especially the Chinese, that 1-2 in the swimming was a disgrace; how can your personal best go from 2:12 to 2:04 in 12 months? Its impossible. What bare faced cheek these Chinese have to blatantly cheat like that. Its also no surprise that they win so many medals in the weight-lifting.
Its not like they dont have form with this sort of cheating........it makes me so angry.
Anyway well done to the Brits and here is hoping for plenty more to come.
DD.
PS - Kenny Egan for an Irish Gold! Or any of the other 2 for that matter!
Thank you DunDoire, it is still likely Britain and Ireland can win more golds in the boxing, so good luck to both nations. _________________ If at first you dont succeed..then skydiving isnt for you
Linford Christie is Jamaican (and he tested positive BTW)
Kevin Pietersen is South African and the England Cricket captain
so what's your point about her being of Nigerian descent?
My point is that a black bloke(whom I've worked with) of Nigerian descent (senior vice president) married to an Irish girl, ran into the reception area where the big telly is after hearing the televised cheering and asked me if it was a tight finish. I said Britain had won.
He said that's a medal for Nigeria because she was of Nigerian origin.
That's my point.
Blood is thicker than water.
well she was born in London and that makes her British to me. Parents are Nigerian though. I don't get his point. Does he mean she is genetically Nigerian or what?
Don't matter to me whatever he thinks.. she thinks she's British and that's good enough for me _________________ RJI
Thank you DunDoire, it is still likely Britain and Ireland can win more golds in the boxing, so good luck to both nations.
Its Egan Vs. Jefferies (IRE vs. GB) in Light-Heavy semi on Friday. For the first time this games i must admit i won't be too upset if the Brit gets beat LOL! Good luck to both sides but i think Egan will have too much class. A top class amateur he is.
If you want to see a real real slug fest watch the Irish guy Sutherland (Caribbean father) box Blanco tomorrow. Both are absolute sluggers. Its going to be savage. Sutherland will be turning pro and has absolutely nothing to lose!
c/o BBC
Britain's Keri-Anne Payne and Cassie Patten take silver and bronze in the 10km swim, and Bryony Shaw takes windsurfing bronze for GB.
The swim was completed in under 2 hours _________________ Cocktails may not be the answer.... but they help you forget the question Vodka... Cheaper than B otox and paralyses more muscles!
Linford Christie is Jamaican (and he tested positive BTW)
Kevin Pietersen is South African and the England Cricket captain
so what's your point about her being of Nigerian descent?
My point is that a black bloke(whom I've worked with) of Nigerian descent (senior vice president) married to an Irish girl, ran into the reception area where the big telly is after hearing the televised cheering and asked me if it was a tight finish. I said Britain had won.
He said that's a medal for Nigeria because she was of Nigerian origin.
That's my point.
Blood is thicker than water.
well she was born in London and that makes her British to me. Parents are Nigerian though. I don't get his point. Does he mean she is genetically Nigerian or what?
Don't matter to me whatever he thinks.. she thinks she's British and that's good enough for me
British cyclist Bradley Wiggins was born in Gent Belgium, but that doesn't make him Belgium! Our high jumper was born in Jamacia but has choosen to repersent GB.
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