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How can they have Ireland and Bangladesh in 1 group with India, yet the West Indies, Sri Lanka and Australia in another?
Whilst most of us will laugh if Australia go out, it kind of makes the tournament look stupid to have 2 wee teams in the same group of 3 and guarantee one of them through at the guaranteed expense of a big gun.
It's like FIFA having a World Cup qualifying group consisting purely of San Marino, Andorra, Luxembourg, Liechenstein and Malta.
Am i missing something totally obvious?
I know the West Indies did crap the last time the tournament was on, is it based purely on one tournament's previous performances?
How can they have Ireland and Bangladesh in 1 group with India, yet the West Indies, Sri Lanka and Australia in another?
Whilst most of us will laugh if Australia go out, it kind of makes the tournament look stupid to have 2 wee teams in the same group of 3 and guarantee one of them through at the guaranteed expense of a big gun.
It's like FIFA having a World Cup qualifying group consisting purely of San Marino, Andorra, Luxembourg, Liechenstein and Malta.
Am i missing something totally obvious?
I know the West Indies did crap the last time the tournament was on, is it based purely on one tournament's previous performances?
Cheers
LC
Here are the standings from the 2007 20-20 WC:
1. India
2. Pakistan
3. Australia
4. New Zealand
5. South Africa
6. Sri Lanka
7. England
8. Bangladesh
9. West Indies
They were put into the pools in this manner:
Group A: 1, 8, Qualifier 1
Group B: 2, 7, Qualifier 2
Group C: 3, 6, 9
Group D: 4, 5, Qualifier 3
Ireland and Netherlands shared the trophy of the qualifying rounds, hence they were put into Group A and B. Scotland came 3rd and went into Group D.
Zimbabwe actually finished 9th in the 2007 WC 20-20 but I don’t think they are allowed to travel to the UK, hence the Windies got into it, who actually finished 10th.
ODI rankings and performance played no part in forming the groups.. only the previous Twenty20 World Cup did.
IMO there's no comparison between the India/Bangladesh/Ireland group and FIFA having a World Cup qualifying group consisting purely of San Marino, Andorra, Luxembourg, Liechenstein and Malta.
I'm still not convinced they have drawn it correctly though - there cant be many tournaments held in sport where the draw for the current one is based purely on where you finished in the previous one - the draw for this tournament has been largely influenced by one result 2 years ago in the last world cup (Bangladesh beating West Indies), that is what has created the 'Group Of Death'. I would have thought ranking points would be more appropriate in this instance, as the tournament is still in its infancy.
The world rankings for the moment at 20/20 are:
ICC Twenty20 Rankings, Twenty20 Ratings, Twenty20 Team Rankings 2009
Ranking ICC Twenty20 Cricket Teams Twenty20 Matches ICC (20 20) Points ICC Twenty20 Cricket Ratings
1 ICC Twenty20 Australia Team 17 3903 230
2 ICC Twenty20 Pakistan Team 14 3226 230
3 ICC Twenty20 India Team 9 1995 222
4 ICC Twenty20 England Team 14 3066 219
5 ICC Twenty20 Sri Lanka Team 11 2304 209
6 ICC Twenty20 South Africa Team 15 2968 198
7 ICC Twenty20 Zimbabwe Team 6 1176 196
8 ICC Twenty20 West Indies Team 9 1756 195
9 ICC Twenty20 New Zealand Team 18 3463 192
10 ICC Twenty20 Bangladesh Team 10 1736 174
11 ICC Twenty20 Canada Team 4 590 148
12 ICC Twenty20 Kenya Team 4 421 105
13 ICC Twenty20 Scotland Team 1 95 95
I appreciate that ranking points for the associate member teams are likely to be lower as they play less cricket.
The world rankings would still have given us a group of death if Zimbabwe had been able to compete.
Ireland don't even feature on the rankings as prior to this starting the only 3 games they played was in the qualification when they beat Scotland,Bermuda and kenya (Final against the ducth was rained off, well they did hold it in Ireland ).
I guess it's all very new and will settle down assuming it continues which i'm sure it will tks to the tv companies. No Doubt Ireland did get lucky with the draw though which you couldn't be-grudge them based on their performance in the last 50 over world cup. Did you see the groups for the next stage. Possibly Ireland/Holland/Sri Lanka/New Zealand in one and England/india/West indies/South Africa in the other
On something seperate, does anyone know if the likes of Morgan and Joyce can come back to the Ireland fold if they haven't been invloved with England for 2 years??
How can they have Ireland and Bangladesh in 1 group with India, yet the West Indies, Sri Lanka and Australia in another?
Whilst most of us will laugh if Australia go out, it kind of makes the tournament look stupid to have 2 wee teams in the same group of 3 and guarantee one of them through at the guaranteed expense of a big gun.
It's like FIFA having a World Cup qualifying group consisting purely of San Marino, Andorra, Luxembourg, Liechenstein and Malta.
Am i missing something totally obvious?
I know the West Indies did crap the last time the tournament was on, is it based purely on one tournament's previous performances?
Cheers
LC
Kind of like Central Asian countries playing European Qualifiers in the World Cup. Can't the Central Asian countries just play amounst them seleves to qualify?
Still it lead to an under performing Ozzie side going out in a strong group W.I.'s & S.L. going through! _________________ SBH Comp 2008 - Runner Up
Like Israel playing in the Euros. I'd pay good money to see Israel going to Iran to nick a tricky point. _________________ This is like a flashback,
This is like a dream
It gets worse 83-6 what on earth were Mascheranas and Foster trying to do. Both very ordinary county players who the hell are the selectors watching and do they know anything about cricket
It gets worse 83-6 what on earth were Mascheranas and Foster trying to do. Both very ordinary county players who the hell are the selectors watching and do they know anything about cricket
Who would you replace Mascheranas for in the twenty20 team then?
India Windies game was pretty good, Bravo had a fantastic knock. _________________ Wolves winner 20.1.08
England are very up and down in this, but it may be the nature of 20/20 rather than any particular inability! I have to say I was surprised they beat India.....
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