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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Broad is maturing more & more as a cricketer.


Glad he has learned from the last ball of the Holland game then  

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In truth the last over against Holland he didn't do much wrong!

He only messed up on the atempted run out on the last ball!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just backed ireland in running at 30's. wrong price IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well tonight backed up my opinion that Dimi should of played instead of Rashid.
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The Windies are back!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Collingwood cost England the match.With a dodgy forecast it is obvious to bat second as D/L favours the side batting second in a reduced overs match particularly as only 9 overs were to be bowled.

More ineptitude
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Pieterson realises that he plays for a team, not just his arrogant ego then maybe we will get somewhere, his strutting posture makes me want to puke.    
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When Pieterson realises that he plays for a team, not just his arrogant ego then maybe we will get somewhere, his strutting posture makes me want to puke.    


Whilst I agree with you about his attitude he is the only genuine world class batsmen in the current set up, without him we would be even more of laughing stock than we already are.  Our bowling options are starting to look quite good but the depth of batting with Wright, Collingwood and Shah in the top 5 is woeful. Mascharenas is a joke at this level a county dobber of a bowler and a slogger with a good eye at best. If the selectors think these players can make England into an international force they should resign now.  
Foster looks a top class keeper and should be given a go in tests, but his batting is useless in this format of the game. The selectors/coach can't even see that Broad is potentially a better bat than him!  Why was Davis dropped after one game in the West Indies when he top scored? He opens the batting for Worcestershire in one day cricket and has the ability to hit the ball over the top ideal to come in number 6 in this format and a very competent keeper.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Collingwood cost England the match.With a dodgy forecast it is obvious to bat second as D/L favours the side batting second in a reduced overs match particularly as only 9 overs were to be bowled.

More ineptitude


Agree I cant believe he has played so many games for England let alone captain the side he is very overrated. Whilst I can't knock his commitment, enthusiasm and outstanding fielding he is otherwise a very limited cricketer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair assessment Rammy, Foster has made two great stumpings, his batting should be at the end of the innings to possibly put icing on the cake not provide the ingredients.  Luke Wright? passable against poor opposition or batting when there is a blue moon.  The point about KP being world class batsman is agreed, but there is a huge difference between that and being a world class Player, he should accept that his team rely on him at this moment in time, and with that acceptance, mix it in with some responsibility.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly I can't see his attitude changing at all whilst his place in the side is unchallenged and that looks to be sometime away! Hopefully the challenge of regaining the Ashes will be enough to focus him a little more than usual in the next few weeks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you both and am dismayed by the arrogance of KP.

Foster looks excellent and should now play through the Ashes series.

Our middle order though is more of a worry and even if Flintoff is fit he seems to have sadly turned from a genuine allrounder to a test bowler who can bat a bit.

I doubt we will win the Ashes
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with you both and am dismayed by the arrogance of KP.

Foster looks excellent and should now play through the Ashes series.

Our middle order though is more of a worry and even if Flintoff is fit he seems to have sadly turned from a genuine allrounder to a test bowler who can bat a bit.

I doubt we will win the Ashes


Or even a match.
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What is it that KP has done? Last I heard he was screwed over by that selector bloke. Surely in that D/L ridiculous rule if it's half the overs it should be half the wickets? Seems to be a backward rule.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

awaywardlad wrote:
I agree with you both and am dismayed by the arrogance of KP.

Foster looks excellent and should now play through the Ashes series.

Our middle order though is more of a worry and even if Flintoff is fit he seems to have sadly turned from a genuine allrounder to a test bowler who can bat a bit.

I doubt we will win the Ashes


Unless Flintoff is fully fit to bowl 20 overs/ innings he isn't worth his place in the side anymore his batting has gone backwards. Why the coaches don't tell him to go out and just be positive when he bats is beyond me. He can't defend but has the potential to turn a game on its head when he bats aggressively.

In Stuart Broad we have I believe a potential world class all rounder but I doubt under the current set up he will develop to fulfill his real potential. Players like Harmisson, Bell and Panesar looked very useful cricketers when the emerged on the international scene but they have gone backwards instead of being developed and improved by the England coaching set up.

I think Australia are there for the taking again but sadly we will more than likely be beaten due to a combination of poor selection and management decisions. I have said it a number of times but until there is a total overhaul of the current selection/ management of the England team will continue to drift along underachieving in international cricket.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorg_George wrote:
What is it that KP has done? Last I heard he was screwed over by that selector bloke. Surely in that D/L ridiculous rule if it's half the overs it should be half the wickets? Seems to be a backward rule.


GG if you can make sense of the following then you are a better man than me Gunga Din.  But here is the reasoning behind D/L.
http://static.cricinfo.com/db/ABO...T/RAIN_RULES/DUCKWORTH_LEWIS.html.



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