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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all seriousness, I feel the members bets section has everything the daily bets threads used to have without the facility for the discussion and the banter that the old style allows.

If people want an article and a running total etc then the articles section surely is just the job?

Feel free to tell me to mind my own but here's my two penneth
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The members bets forum is shit

Disagree it has given me the chance to pit my wits against others and the results have shown as it has made me more competitive.
Problem is when a few losers creep in people lose heart and stop posting.
The idea is to not chase losses, the nina post has done well also.
I left the forum for a long spell because of the stick i took when putting movers up ,some said the prices were wrong and my information was incorrect.
Now I have a thread on exactly the same thing which I left for ,its showing approx a 40 point profit and has had over 2k hits.
Someone out there must think its ok
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure admin will be happy for you to keep it going in the articles section if you want to VS
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

value seeker wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
The members bets forum is shit

Disagree it has given me the chance to pit my wits against others and the results have shown as it has made me more competitive.
Problem is when a few losers creep in people lose heart and stop posting.
The idea is to not chase losses, the nina post has done well also.
I left the forum for a long spell because of the stick i took when putting movers up ,some said the prices were wrong and my information was incorrect.
Now I have a thread on exactly the same thing which I left for ,its showing approx a 40 point profit and has had over 2k hits.
Someone out there must think its ok

I agree with the others mainly because reading a list of bets when there's  no good reason given for betting is not especially entertaining - and if there's no good reasoning no one will ever follow and chances are they won't even take notice.  

Sorry VS but the Members Bets forum won't be around for long unless we get loads of posters wanting it to stay.  Maybe a move to Articles or the general Racing Forum - to be confirmed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raise it to the ground!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Raise it to the ground!


Its hardly Cardiff is it      
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alansouthcoast wrote:
Machiavellian wrote:
Raise it to the ground!


Its hardly Cardiff is it      


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Yawn . . . Reply with quote

FallonFacta wrote:
Sorry but I like the dumber threads - the serious threads on Off Topic don't interest me most of the time and the serious threads on racing generally cost me money!  (Ante post and seeing the good sides of way too many horses)

You're right that posting on a thread is not the best way to moderate.  The main reason I do it is because when there's more than one person getting involved in something we believe needs modding it's difficult to start composing and send different PM's.  By the time you've sent the last PM you have a reply to the first and the thread's carrying on.  If we move the thread to the mods board to take a look at it and try calm things down we get a post on feedback saying "Where's the thread?"

I'll try and reply to anything you want to criticise me of and next time I'll try to PM rather than get involved on the board.

A couple of suggestions/thoughts that might or might not work...

1. Should we split Off Topic into serious/non-serious?  Or any other titles anyone can think of

2. Is the "Members Bets" forum working?  Is it taking away from the daily threads?


Hi FF

Sorry for not replying to this sooner - just wanted to see what others said first.

Firstly apologies for being a bit rude and talking about posting on 'dumb' threads etc. - really not relevant.

As for moderation, yes I think it will work a lot better if mods can do as much by PM as possible, as warnings on threads often seem to 'end' the momentum of the thread. So thanks for acknowledging this.

As for a separate 'serious' section I think its a good idea. That way Off Topic can be used for the kind of TV, music, film, fun/jokey threads that we currently see a lot of, and we can have another forum maybe entitled 'Current Affairs' where news, issues, politics, economics, finance etc. can be kept separate and hopefully flourish a bit more than they have done of late. After all I don't think fun/jokey threads really 'fit' or 'belong' on the same forum as discussions in such areas as those mentioned above. Be interested to hear a few other forumites views on this

Thanks again for your (non defensive) reply  
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Yawn . . . Reply with quote

Owl of Minerva wrote:
As for moderation, yes I think it will work a lot better if mods can do as much by PM as possible, as warnings on threads often seem to 'end' the momentum of the thread. So thanks for acknowledging this.

Definitly PM more in future - but you may see threads locked temporarily or disappearing for a bit while we make a decision.  Most of the time there's more than one mod about and it's easier for us to make joint decisions but it takes longer.


Owl of Minerva wrote:
As for a separate 'serious' section I think its a good idea. That way Off Topic can be used for the kind of TV, music, film, fun/jokey threads that we currently see a lot of, and we can have another forum maybe entitled 'Current Affairs' where news, issues, politics, economics, finance etc. can be kept separate and hopefully flourish a bit more than they have done of late. After all I don't think fun/jokey threads really 'fit' or 'belong' on the same forum as discussions in such areas as those mentioned above. Be interested to hear a few other forumites views on this

I'm undecided on this - I'm also incapable of making a decision before breakfast!  We really do need more opinions - Anyone?

You've removed my biggest worry which was calling it Serious Off Topic - Current Affairs sounds so much better!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using a contemporary example, Michael Jackson's death would go under the serious news section but would this then mean that the jokes that were put on the current Michael Jackson thread are not allowed?  Sure, the off-topic section has its drawbacks but splitting it into two categories is only going to cause more arguments in my opinion.

The members bets sub-forum is, in my opinion, the main reason that the daily racing threads at the moment are so drab.  Get rid of it!  If anyone is serious about doing their own punting thread then starting an article sounds a good idea.  If not, it's not against the realms of possibility that those people could put their "daily selections" into the "daily selections" thread. No?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flipando wrote:
 Sure, the off-topic section has its drawbacks but splitting it into two categories is only going to cause more arguments in my opinion.


Very true
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flipando wrote:
it's not against the realms of possibility that those people could put their "daily selections" into the "daily selections" thread. No?


Of course you would think so but..........
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the inteligent discussion and debate has returned to off topic. Not before time either imo.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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