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Owl of Minerva · Group Performer Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 9614

High five Jon

Cheer up Papa, you know you love me really

Papa 3 · Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject:

Machiavellian · Group Performer Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 4398

WHERE?

Tagalie · Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:44 am Post subject:

Read some interesting pieces in the paper yesterday- interviews with teenagers, who were born after he stopped making decent songs but were still really into him (through their parents) and with a black guy born the same year in the same town who described what a great influence he was. Difficult for someone of my age to realise how segregated music used to be in terms of radio stations, gigs and marketing for "black music" and "white music"- MJ was the first global crossover artist.

Been hearing MJ songs on the radio all weekend- some of the earlier stuff I was less familar with. I'm starting to think that the unspeakable awfulness of Earth Song cancels out every classic he ever made though.
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geordie_racer · Group Performer Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 11050

alansouthcoast · Site Admin Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 13636

Tagalie, just prior to Jackson many of the top names at Motown were becoming International. Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross and such, who were having more hits in the UK than in the US. Micheal Jackson was probably the first to go truly worldwide. You are right about music being segregated though, much of the early Reggae ( Prince Buster, Desmond Dekker ) Was very hard to get hold off. The original skinhead movement was instrumental in buying this music, and the pirate radios were instrumental in playing it.
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alansouthcoast · Site Admin Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 13636

Papa 3 · Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:38 am Post subject:

johnnio · Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:50 am Post subject:

Tagalie · Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:59 am Post subject:

Geordie, I was just paraphrasing the interview I read with a black guy from the era and his recollection of how stations did their playlists, how gigs were marketed and how attitudes to music were. MTV (back when the M stood for "music") was pretty much a "white music" station until pushed into playing Jackson's early videos. I didn't know much about that so found it interesting. It was intriguing to read modern black teenagers' responses to the issue of his ever-growing whiteness given his earlier status as a black role model.

I certainly don't consider him some sort of wonder-being or want to join in with the Lady Di-style hand-wringing and wailing.
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geordie_racer · Group Performer Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 11050

Within a couple of hours of his death someone set up a web site with tons of them on. If that's your poison here's a link to it :-

and also

I suspect a few of them will be too risque for this forum though !!!

in response to

Do people have these jokes all planned and ready just waiting for the poor sod in question to die?

If anyone's heard the plastic bags one - Yes, it's probably bad enough to get banned from the whole internet not just here! Don't!!!

and

Damn, what about the slide one?

what more do you want?

or is there some form of compulsive obsessive disorder which means that if someone posts a link up and warns you about it you just HAVE to press it to make sure you are offended?

The problem with freedom of speech is that it includes the right to say stuff which otehrs find objectionaable, just like demoracy includes the right to vote for the BNP.

If you don't like it act against the perpetrators, not the messangers.

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