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dogsaver Group Performer

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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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it just goe's to show how hypocritical all you people that believe in religion
are ,dont you all preach forgive and forget,or is that only when it suits
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FallonFacta Site Admin


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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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I've been googling try to find the proper quote but I can't... Something about "you can judge a civilisation by it's prisons or how it treats it prisoners"
Whatever he did he's an old man who won't be around much longer. Maybe the politicians wanted to appear less heartless than normal by letting him out or maybe they actually have a heart! (Doubt it)
Biggs was a total attention seeker who would probably love all this attention if he realised he was getting it - I'd rather forget about him now he's out. _________________ Cocktails may not be the answer.... but they help you forget the question Vodka... Cheaper than B otox and paralyses more muscles! |
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Machiavellian Group Performer


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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: |
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"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering the prisons."
The late, great Fyodor Dostoyevsky. _________________ This is like a flashback,
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geordie_racer Group Performer


Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 11050
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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he hasnt been in prison of late; he's been in hospital
and when he was in rison he was living in better conditions and getting better fed than many OAPs who are forgotten about by our society. _________________ Geordie_R
"A should of known there mum was buying banana's" |
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alansouthcoast Site Admin

Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 13636
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| geordie_racer wrote: | he hasnt been in prison of late; he's been in hospital
and when he was in rison he was living in better conditions and getting better fed than many OAPs who are forgotten about by our society. |
Yes he was having the time of his life strapped to the bed, surrounded by guards and being fed through tubes. _________________ If at first you dont succeed..then skydiving isnt for you |
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geordie_racer Group Performer


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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| alansouthcoast wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | he hasnt been in prison of late; he's been in hospital
and when he was in rison he was living in better conditions and getting better fed than many OAPs who are forgotten about by our society. |
Yes he was having the time of his life strapped to the bed, surrounded by guards and being fed through tubes. |
when he was in prison?
I dont think so _________________ Geordie_R
"A should of known there mum was buying banana's" |
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alansouthcoast Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| geordie_racer wrote: | | alansouthcoast wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | he hasnt been in prison of late; he's been in hospital
and when he was in rison he was living in better conditions and getting better fed than many OAPs who are forgotten about by our society. |
Yes he was having the time of his life strapped to the bed, surrounded by guards and being fed through tubes. |
when he was in prison?
I dont think so |
Im talking about how he is now Geordie, this wonderful life you seem to be suggesting. As MTV has rightly stated, there are far worse people than Biggs who have been released. _________________ If at first you dont succeed..then skydiving isnt for you |
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geordie_racer Group Performer


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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| alansouthcoast wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | | alansouthcoast wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | he hasnt been in prison of late; he's been in hospital
and when he was in rison he was living in better conditions and getting better fed than many OAPs who are forgotten about by our society. |
Yes he was having the time of his life strapped to the bed, surrounded by guards and being fed through tubes. |
when he was in prison?
I dont think so |
Im talking about how he is now Geordie, this wonderful life you seem to be suggesting. As MTV has rightly stated, there are far worse people than Biggs who have been released. |
and I was saying that he was getting cared for in prison better than a lot of honest hardworking pensioners
oh and he seems to be making a remarkable recovery judging by the People today and the news on TV......and of course as his son said this isnt turning into a mdia circus hence his exclusive with a tabloid
makes me vomit.
as a cynical man I am not surprised. _________________ Geordie_R
"A should of known there mum was buying banana's" |
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burroughhilllad Group Performer


Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 1561
Location: Chester
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| geordie_racer wrote: | | Papa 3 wrote: | | shamardal84 wrote: | | alansouthcoast wrote: | What gets me is why people think a criminal is sorry, just because he says so. If you think about it, they are just as likely to lie to get parole.
The ones I think are telling the truth, are like the guys jailed for the 3 Essex boys killings. The continue to say they are not guilty so stay in jail, if they had lied they would be due parole and released by now. |
At the end of the day this doesnt really have much to do with the biggs case because he said he wasnt sorry for anything. Should we be more lenient with him because he's honest? Certainly not. I think its quite pathetic of him to use the argument 'i dont regret anything in life because i wouldnt of had my son' |
To end my involvement in this never ending discussion, this is a quote off Yahoo News. Biggs will turn 80 on Saturday - the 46th anniversary of the robbery. Michael Biggs said his father had expressed regret for the robbery, but did not regret "living the life he had".  |
I wonder when he did so
presumably at the same time as the man said to be incapable of speech or writing etc expressed his delight at the decision of jack straw. telepathic communication?
Throughout his time HE has never expressed any remorse at all
and Alan, do you really think that the issue of remorse (which tends to relate to serious rather than petty crme) has a major influence on teh re-offending stats? compared to peer pressure, discrimination inthe job market, social background and home life?
next thing son of Biggs will be wanting us to fnd his trip to Dignitas so his dad can exercise his "right" to die with dignity |
Not only did he not express remorse, he was even churning out dross with the Sex Pistols with titles such as Cosh The Driver.
The man is scum. We've been told he'll probably not see out the weekend. What a load of tosh. _________________ Not as naive as some, but happy. |
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lochsong Group Performer


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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| geordie_racer wrote: | | we were told he had "months" to live (I suppoe we all do, it's just a question of how many) |
He made fools of the coppers back then.
As mentioned, todays' coppers have more pressing matters to attend to.
It's a political gambit by Jack Straw.
As long as Biggs stays very unhealthy, he'll stay out of jail.
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geordie_racer Group Performer


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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| lochsong wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | | we were told he had "months" to live (I suppoe we all do, it's just a question of how many) |
He made fools of the coppers back then.
As mentioned, todays' coppers have more pressing matters to attend to.
It's a political gambit by Jack Straw.
As long as Biggs stays very unhealthy, he'll stay out of jail.
JMO  |
if he jumps out of bed and starts a highland fling he wont be back inside, he has been effectively released without conditions _________________ Geordie_R
"A should of known there mum was buying banana's" |
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shamardal84 Group Performer


Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 5058
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Lockerbie bomber 'to be released'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8198603.stm
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MT VESSELS Group Performer


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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:35 am Post subject: |
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As i have stated before, the whole justice system stinks. No parole or compassionate leave should be granted until their full sentence is served.
I think it is a sad state of affairs that this appears on a thread about some petty old crim when it should have a thread on its own but then again this fella is not in the media circus
MT jnr _________________ THERE ARE 2 RULES TO SUCCESS. RULE 1)DONT TELL EVERYONE WHAT YOU KNOW |
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Jimbob Moderator


Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 7475
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| shamardal84 wrote: |
Well, he is dying... |
Oh that's alright then
Perhaps he'll be well enough togo into a care home in a week or so as well. He can go into the same one as Ronnie Biggs that'll really be a great advert for the British justice system won't it  _________________ You're born with nothing, and better off that way,
As soon as you got something they send someone to try & take it away! |
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geordie_racer Group Performer


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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: |
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compassion
shouldn't it be offered before it is requested?
230 people and their families got none
_________________ Geordie_R
"A should of known there mum was buying banana's" |
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