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I heard today on betfair radio that George Washington was a definate runner !!! Has anyone else heard that ?
I've heard that he's a definate possibility. Make of that what you will... _________________ This is how it feels to be lonely, this is how it feels to be small, this is how it feels when your world means nothing at all.
Speaking at the Curragh on Sunday, O'Brien said: "Peeping Fawn is in good shape and came out of her Goodwood race well. She's working away with a view to going to York where she could run in either the Yorkshire Oaks or the Juddmonte International.
"Dylan Thomas and George Washington are still in the Juddmonte picture and nothing will be decided until a few days before the race. We will see how the horses are and what the ground is likely to be.
"Alexandrova is coming along well and we're still looking at running her in the Yorkshire Oaks. It will be her first run of the year and she is going to come on a good bit for it."
I'd love to see George Washington - It would probably make my year!
I would be a little worried about how he'd like the trek over the Knavesmire to get to the course.
Weather update from York - It's raining _________________ Cocktails may not be the answer.... but they help you forget the question Vodka... Cheaper than B otox and paralyses more muscles!
Speaking at the Curragh on Sunday, O'Brien said: "Peeping Fawn is in good shape and came out of her Goodwood race well. She's working away with a view to going to York where she could run in either the Yorkshire Oaks or the Juddmonte International.
"Dylan Thomas and George Washington are still in the Juddmonte picture and nothing will be decided until a few days before the race. We will see how the horses are and what the ground is likely to be.
"Alexandrova is coming along well and we're still looking at running her in the Yorkshire Oaks. It will be her first run of the year and she is going to come on a good bit for it."
I'd love to see George Washington - It would probably make my year!
I would be a little worried about how he'd like the trek over the Knavesmire to get to the course.
Weather update from York - It's raining
I can't believe Aidan didn't say "He's a nice horse" even once in that interview! _________________ This is how it feels to be lonely, this is how it feels to be small, this is how it feels when your world means nothing at all.
Speaking at the Curragh on Sunday, O'Brien said: "Peeping Fawn is in good shape and came out of her Goodwood race well. She's working away with a view to going to York where she could run in either the Yorkshire Oaks or the Juddmonte International.
"Dylan Thomas and George Washington are still in the Juddmonte picture and nothing will be decided until a few days before the race. We will see how the horses are and what the ground is likely to be.
"Alexandrova is coming along well and we're still looking at running her in the Yorkshire Oaks. It will be her first run of the year and she is going to come on a good bit for it."
I'd love to see George Washington - It would probably make my year!
I would be a little worried about how he'd like the trek over the Knavesmire to get to the course.
Weather update from York - It's raining
I can't believe Aidan didn't say "He's a nice horse" even once in that interview!
Sure you know he's a lovely horse and were really pleased with him... _________________ Pricewise + ValueScope = Steaks for stakes. Every Saturday a winner. Roll up Roll up!
DYLAN THOMAS was on Wednesday made the newfavourite for the Juddmonte International ahead of Derby winner Authorized by William Hill after Aidan O'Brien revealed that the King George winner, rather than George Washington, was set to be Ballydoyle's main hope at York next Tuesday.
Most bookmakers were caught on the hop by O'Brien nominating Dylan Thomas and Duke Of Marmalade as the likeliest runners from the seven he left in the 1m2f Group 1 at Wednesday's six-day stage.
Bookmakers had confidently expected the International to feature an Eclipse rematch between Notnowcato, Authorized and George Washington, but Hills quickly revised their betting to make Dylan Thomas 2-1 favourite at the expense of Authorized, who was eased to 9-4. Notnowcato is a 3-1 chance with the firm.
The Juddmonte was yesterday shaping up into one of the races of the season, setting up a belated meeting between Dylan Thomas and Authorized, which was denied when the three-year-old bypassed Ascot, and Notnowcato.
O'Brien said on Wednesday: “We haven't finalised plans just yet. The horses still have bits of work to do and we'll be keeping an eye on the ground situation, but it's looking as if Dylan Thomas and Duke Of Marmalade will be going for the International.
“We might also run something else in the race, but we're thinking of waiting with George Washington and aiming him at the Irish Champion Stakes instead on September 8.”
Dylan Thomas, beaten favourite when fourth behind Notnowcato in the International a year ago, achieved one of his four Group 1 successes over the 1m2f trip when landing the Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown last September.
Duke Of Marmalade, runner-up to stablemate Excellent Art in the St James's Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot on his most recent start, will be tackling the trip for the first time, having finished fourth in the 2,000 Guineas and the Irish 2,000 Guineas.
O'Brien's decision took the bookmakers by surprise as the King George winner had not featured in their prices, with Eclipse third George Washington expected to lead his team, being rated third favourite behind his Eclipse conquerors. Coral had priced up the York feature last month, believing it would be a rerun of their sponsored Eclipse. Dylan Thomas will lead to a radical market rethink today. O'Brien's other nominated runner Duke Of Marmalade was fifth favourite at around the
14-1 mark.
Dylan Thomas is being given the chance to put the record straight after being beaten favourite last year behind Notnowcato, who impressed on Wednesday in a final serious workout on the Newmarket gallops.
Sir Michael Stoute paired the Eclipse winner with his other International acceptor, the Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud winner Mountain High, on the Limekilns round gallop.
Notnowcato, partnered by his regular work-rider Gary Forster, pulled clear of Mountain High, while another International contender, Asiatic Boy, fourth in the Sussex Stakes on
his British debut, also pleased connections in his work at Newmarket on Wednesday.
His new big-race jockey Jamie Spencer took the reins for the first time and trainer Mike de Kock was happy with the outcome.
Asiatic Boy, who ran a fine race to finish fourth on his first start for five months in the Sussex Stakes, will be having his first start over 1m2f.
“I was pretty happy with it,” De Kock said. “I was happy with the way he's come out of it and he worked well. Jamie seemed pretty pleased.”
David Elsworth's Salford Mill, Mark Johnston's Boscobel and Clive Brittain's Hattan were also among the 14 confirmations.
geordie_racer
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I am sure duke of marmalade is a far better horse than we have been llowed to see this season so far
should have run in the derby IMHO
he should not be discounted from this race if he lines up
Tagalie
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geordie, I was wondering about him, but he hasn't tried this trip and has never run on anything other than good to firm. A true dark horse.
I still think it's Notnowcato's for the taking.
geordie_racer
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Tags, I think dom should have been running over longer distances since his Guineas run; he was a staying on 4th and shaped like he would get further
i am not a huge fan of O'Brien; I think he rns too many horses who are thre to try and set the race up for one of the string; I am convinced this horse has been badly campaigned this year.
Gorg_George
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Dylan Thomas should take this race in my opinion, going on figures alone. The only hurdle for him will be if the ground comes up soft. Good or better and this race is his for the taking, im convinced he's still improving. His run Against Manduro is still the best performance by a British horse this season IMHO. Had a decent bet on him and GW earler in the week as it was obvious one of the two were guna go off favourite or alot shorter than they were
beathollow92
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I am struggling to get excited about the Juddmonte, anybody else?
It is not the best trip for Authorized or Dylan Thomas, so no matter the outcome bewteen them there will still be unanswered questions.
I suppose the most interesting part is Duke Of Marmalade. O'Brien had god knows how many Derby horses, and I thought he was the best. He stuck at a mile because of O'Briens lack of good milers. (By Ballydoyle standards). The camera in the blimp at the Guineas was fascinating. If you watched D of M in that, you would never have backed him in the Irish Guineas. After seeing it, I couldnt believe he wasnt stepped up in trip.
Id rather see Peeping Fawn run in this, and leave Alexandrova in the Oaks. Perhaps that is another pointer that Alexandrova will not win
_________________ Cocktails may not be the answer.... but they help you forget the question Vodka... Cheaper than B otox and paralyses more muscles!
I am struggling to get excited about the Juddmonte, anybody else?
Why, it's going to be the race of the season !!!!
Rematch between Dylan Thomas and Notnowcato on ground that will suit them both. The answer to the question of whether Authorized would have beaten Notnowcato in the eclipse had they both raced together. It should turn out to be quite a race, not sue if it's a betting proposition though !!!
I cant get excited about 2 horses meeting over a trip which is not their optimum. If they had met in the King George - that would have been something to see. I am not really bothered which one is best at 10f... I want to see them race at 12f.
Maybe I am just looking at it from a gambling point of view, and the only interesting part is Duke Of Marmalade.
I cant get excited about 2 horses meeting over a trip which is not their optimum. If they had met in the King George - that would have been something to see. I am not really bothered which one is best at 10f... I want to see them race at 12f.
Maybe I am just looking at it from a gambling point of view, and the only interesting part is Duke Of Marmalade.
I really just dont see it as race of the season.
If DT and Authorized met in the King George it would have been an unfair competition due to the weight allowance Authorized would of got !!!
I actually think DT is more of a 10f horse, but that's my opinion. I doubt DOM will get placed in the race !!!
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