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 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:34 am Post subject: Michael Shields no pardon. |
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Justice SecretaryJack Straw provisionally refuses an appeal for jailed Liverpool football fan Michael Shields.your thoughts please 
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Honestly?
I suspect if was from anywhere other than Liverpool there wouldnt be this fuss.
Sorry if that is deemed provocative.
I have no idea of his guilt or innocence, and uunless you were there, neiterh does anyone lese.
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I find the whole thing a bit depressing. Someone caved a fella's head in with a paving slab. Why should Jack Straw grant a pardon, and essentially over-rule another country's justice system?
The whole thing with Liverpool fans feigning outrage, just to prove what bigtime liverpool fans they are, is pathetic (kop murals and players wearing t-shirts to support convicted criminals?), but then again the Everton fans taking the piss is just as bad.
Liverpool fans seem to assume he's innocent because he is a Liverpool fan. Sorry, we all know that doesn't wash.
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Guity or not guilty?, only he knows for certain, or the "other" guy, either way he serves his time until proved innocent, as his presumed innocence hasn't worked. If proved innocent he should make a few bob, if no proof of his being innocent then he is in the right place, and this has got nothing to do with which club he supports or doesn't support. 
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| geordie_racer wrote: | Honestly?
I suspect if was from anywhere other than Liverpool there wouldnt be this fuss.
I have no idea of his guilt or innocence, and uunless you were there, neither does anyone else. |
100% agree with both those statements.
For once, the execrable Jack Straw has got it right.
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| I'm sure the people of Liverpool will 'pull together' at this difficult time, in the wake of this terrible news |
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| Owl of Minerva wrote: | | I'm sure the people of Liverpool will 'pull together' at this difficult time, in the wake of this terrible news |
Led by Sue Johnston no doubt. |
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what a shame the good people of Liverpool don't throw their weight behind the one truly innocent person in all of this, the poor barman who got clubbed with concrete.
in fact, you will notice, the victim of the crime is not even mentioned in that article
but then he isnt a merseysider... if he was there would be a cmapign on the kop at the next home game, no doubt.
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| geordie_racer wrote: | what a shame the good people of Liverpool don't throw their weight behind the one truly innocent person in all of this, the poor barman who got clubbed with concrete.
in fact, you will notice, the victim of the crime is not even mentioned in that article
but then he isnt a merseysider... if he was there would be a cmapign on the kop at the next home game, no doubt. |
Led by Sue Johnston with scarf tied to her arm and lit candles at her side. |
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| CanfordCliffs wrote: | | geordie_racer wrote: | what a shame the good people of Liverpool don't throw their weight behind the one truly innocent person in all of this, the poor barman who got clubbed with concrete.
in fact, you will notice, the victim of the crime is not even mentioned in that article
but then he isnt a merseysider... if he was there would be a cmapign on the kop at the next home game, no doubt. |
Led by Sue Johnston with scarf tied to her arm and lit candles at her side. |
Most Merseysiders couldn't give a toss anymore. Fact is half believe he's guilty, half believe he's innocent so the lad is going to have an awful life whenever he gets out anyway cos he's going be passing people in the street, some giving him a hug, some calling him a murderer.
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| geordie_racer wrote: | what a shame the good people of Liverpool don't throw their weight behind the one truly innocent person in all of this, the poor barman who got clubbed with concrete.
in fact, you will notice, the victim of the crime is not even mentioned in that article
but then he isnt a merseysider... if he was there would be a cmapign on the kop at the next home game, no doubt. |
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Gets a royal pardon, did he? or didn't he? we will never know.
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If people think the Libya reception was a bit much, just wait until the next Liverpool home game.
I said before, Liverpool fans (and players, disgustingly) assume he is innocent because he is a Liverpool fan. That's just plain wrong.
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